posing in army uniform

[Oceanklassik]

Sorry I have to re-open because I want to set the record straight. I have to state upfront too that I do not know TS and have no particular relationship with him/her. But I see that the discussions here have gotten out of context. It is (I believe) not about whether there is 'legal rights' to take photo with uniform, or take photo with uniform and a branded watch, etc.

I think what TS was intending to talk about was how, certain information one shares publicly, will lead to unnecessary negative outcome. I believe it is not (legally) wrong to take and share photos of oneself in uniform wearing an expensive watch. It is how people will take such an opportunity to 'politicise' the whole issue. If you guys are discerning and sensitive to the socio-political climate, not only in Singapore, but around the world, you will realize how such an 'innocent photo' can lead to many things negative.

Remember the NKF saga? How did a "$600,000 a year is peanuts" created such furore? You see a pic of Sylvester Stallone wearing a PAM vs the pic of Lee Hsien Loong wearing the same PAM. What do you think? For some, they will think there is nothing wrong, and truly, there is nothing wrong! Remember the not-too-long-ago online vice ring that was busted and many people were arrested, most have been prosecuted, over sleeping with an "underaged" prostitute? Which accused persons will create more "news"? A civil servant or "man in uniform", or do you think a sales manager, insurance/property agent, etc.

Let's face it, a crime is a crime. But who is that person(s) who commits the crime gets the limelight or not. Whether you like it or not, people will take this chance to "wack". This goes the same for what (I think) TS intends to discuss here. He/she may have ulterior motive, I wouldn't know, but it is about being sensitive to what you want to share in public sphere.

I'm not saying who is wrong/right. We come from different backgrounds and live in different environments so to some, there is nothing wrong. But to others, it may hit a raw nerve. Personally, I will not do that (as in the photo).

Have a great weekend

[Oceanklassik]

Close?

[triton]

thread close

[Iceheller]

Bro, that is known as POLITICS....muayahahahah

Dude, no offense but no u no bro to me lah. I personally never see a Full time service LTC and above take public bus and MRT in uniform. I also two arrow pointing down lei. Maybe NS to u is wayang, to me it is an added secuirty for my family. And for all other info. Big bro is watching us. So dun do anything foolish that will jeapadise yrself thinking u can get away with it. The snowden leak and recent change in MDA rule is just a warning for all of us.

[Distinguido]

I believe there a code of conduct in civil service not to showoff yrslf wearing expensive thing especially in uniform.( but rolex very affordable nowadays as kids also wear them, expensive thing maybe like Lange , RM and etc). BTW, SAF officer has to got through table manner training as well. Do not surprise if the code of conduct for wear expensive things is there. I also remember that, officers of certain ranks are told not to take bus and train. But i guess only a civil servant can clarify that with us.

Bro, that is known as POLITICS....muayahahahah


Wah, first time i hear officer told not to take bus and train.....heehee.
Of what rank? BG?
Colonel earn only $15k, dont take bus or train, take what?
That should be peoples freedom right?
I dont know, i am only a corporal.

[Iceheller]

Oh~ so I think SAF should ban uniform out of camp? Because once you step out of camp with uniform means leaking out information? Like what you mentioned, rank, unit, guards, ranger, airborne, marksman, etc??

No wonder so many information leaked cause SAF never ban uniform out of camp?

Dude, the web is free to grab, if ppl want to step into Sg to steal info, that one govt cannot stop unless they find evidence on him. But posting yr uniform pics especially the higher ranking and KAH on social website or Internet is something govt can do. If u think i am bull****ting u and the rest, then i cannot force u. If we ever bump into each other for GTGs and u serve NS, I will tell u what I heard and saw.

[dtctan]

Ha ha ten10, you are right we shouldn't stomp fellow brothers here. Is an achievement he made with his hard earn money .. So we should encourage and appreciate each other for their achievement and not create a big hoo ha over here unless sour grape loh.

[ten10]

Alamak brudder, this one is Watch Forum leh... not stomp lah!

[Tricolore]

Actually I am very curious about something. If there is anything wrong, why can't you tell him straight in his face on his facebook thread that he had done something wrong? (Obviously TS has FB, since he took the screenshot off facebook...) Why must you take a screenshot and post it in the forum, under your forum moniker, and create a big hoo-ha here? I am beginning to piece the puzzle together already...

[TanWL]

Maybe should close this thread. So that the picture will not get any more exposure.

[dtctan]

What is the wrong with the post .. He buy with his hard earn money, SAF officers cannot wear Rolex ??

[Darkangel]

I see nothing wrong posing with the watch bought from the money he earned, firstly, I thank him for his contributions to the country.

I m not sure if you have any personal grudges against him for you to post it up and potentially getting him, his career and eventually affecting him and his family into trouble. End of the day, by posting this up and (hopefully) people will point fingers at him, what do you gain?

I applaud the members of SGROC showing their support and further confirming that this is a forum with matured thinking members who won't gossip like aunties in the markets. This SAF day,I saw people posting pictures of themselves proudly wearing their army uniforms to their workplace, isn't this what our govt is promoting? Why be shy about your uniforms?

Lastly, the facebook group that the picture was posted was PRIVATE. It was done that way for likeminded people to share their pictures freely, something that they may not want to post on their personal fb account because there's bound to be people who are jealous and post something unkind.

[Zhi_Peng]

Actually the guy is leaking out information unknowingly, during war or sabotage situation, enemy would know that he is a captain, jungle train, airborne, marksman and etc. The reason for the change in new army uniform is that soldier can quickly remove his/her rank, unit and etc just before they get capture by enemy. So by post all this information,he is already leaking info and compromising himself and maybe even his unit...

Oh~ so I think SAF should ban uniform out of camp? Because once you step out of camp with uniform means leaking out information? Like what you mentioned, rank, unit, guards, ranger, airborne, marksman, etc??

No wonder so many information leaked cause SAF never ban uniform out of camp?

[trewyn]

Relax... I also don't see anything wrong with that picture. This captain worked hard to earn his $$ by serving the country honestly, he is entitled to enjoy some of the finer things in life. I'm guessing that he has a clear conscience and shouldn't be afraid of finger pointing and gossips. There are also no rules being broken here if he took that picture in a public place and not in-camp. I feel very sorry for the civil service if there are assumptions of archaic and communistic rules for them, which I believe is not the case and should not be the case. It's just a watch... not like he's showing off driving a Lamborghini or ferrari and pictures of him with women splurging on champagne in clubs, KTVs and hang flower joints :P That I believe then warrants online lynching haha

Also I think that wearing good watches are part and parcel of the military culture in most countries? After all, we have military versions, pilot versions and navy versions of watches

To add, his badges are very impressive... if it were me and I slogged my guts out for those badges, I'll pose with a patek and not a rolex man! haha but that's just me, so I believe he is 'quite humble' liao

[Iceheller]

I believe there a code of conduct in civil service not to showoff yrslf wearing expensive thing especially in uniform.( but rolex very affordable nowadays as kids also wear them, expensive thing maybe like Lange , RM and etc). BTW, SAF officer has to got through table manner training as well. Do not surprise if the code of conduct for wear expensive things is there. I also remember that, officers of certain ranks are told not to take bus and train. But i guess only a civil servant can clarify that with us.