A Thought to Ponder

[terrenceterrence]

i think the reason that no action was taken against him is because the country is not as secular as we all thought it should be anymore.

as recent as the AWARE case, the christian majority have seeped into the government and is lobbying it's followers to vote for it;s members and their cause.

being from such a large church, the sheer voting power that his followers and their immediet families is immense. the government could not afford to lose these votes and the remmifications should it follow it through.

call me a pessimist but with the advent of the mega churches... there are scary times ahead should you not be a believer.

Christian right is just as scary as the radical islamisation. the difference is that it;s jsut more subtle in it's modus operandi.

[Haolian King]

Bros, let's not get heated up... Although we may have diff beliefs but remember... we are all FELLOW WATCH WORSHIPPERS... hehe....

Everyone has their choice to choose what they want to do. But one must be responsible for their own decisions. As long as one admits and repents, he is a man with good nature.

[H2F]

Personally I wouldn't NOT do something just because it's the opposite of what others told me to do. I.e., "I don't go to church because one time that guy told me to go and blah, blah, blah". Then that's exactly the same as blindly following others, only the guy happen to use reverse pyschology on u. Make ur own decisions because it's YOUR decision. Not because of what this person said or that person do, etc. And like any decision, it's a good idea to make informed decision, as in research /read /talk to others more knowledgable before deciding. Just like before buying a watch lah! Except, religion is perhaps just a tad more important decision...

[Ender]

i think we will see much more such incidents in the future... ISD better stock up on their ice blocks...
i get the distinct impression that it is the newly converted/ born again followers who are the most 'hardcore', almost militant zealots.
i have friends who come from families which have adopted christianilty as the family faith since forever and they are far more open-minded, sensitive, generous and objective in how they interact with ppl from other religions and choose to spread their faith. Bluntly speaking, their approach has a higher chance of success with me than somemore shoving his face into mine telling me that I will go to hell because *blah blah blah*....

[75s]

Dude - I suggest you ask yourself why burning incense or chanting indicates respect for your parents? Doesn't that fall under 'rules' of a religion or 'rules' of certain individuals i.e. rules that you so abhor?

It may indicate respect for you if its YOUR parent. But if not, I don't think anyone has any right to judge how a child should conduct himself to respect a bereathed parent. And if I were that child, I wouldn't give two cents what anyone else thinks. And most importantly, when anyone tries to say but but but its a 'sign' of respect, that 'sign' only constitutes an act right? So what's more important? An act or what is true to your heart?

My two cents worth

[Mille]

don't get too strung up over these kind of comments


religion is a guideline for living one's life, moderation, balance & pragmaticism is the key.

[RTS]

I beg to differ, why must we hold on to religion blindly to such extent? Will you rather abide to the "rules" of your god than to pay your last respects to someone who have loved you take care of you in their whole life despite who you are? Please dont tell me that god loves you more than your parents do.

If I were the parents treading on the path to next life, I will be damn sad and disappointed. My 0.02cents.

How does the friend and relatives of the deceased not know that the son respects his lost parent in his own way? Should he not be allowed to mourn the way he chooses to? By judging him are we not imposing our wills and beliefs on another?

[Frogmen]

Just wondering how can the Pea brain insensible Pastor preach to his followers? Why isnt the govt not sending a strong message(jail/removing this pastor from his post) to deter this from happening again. This isnt their style

[toffeesthings]

To add, during his apology, he stated that he did not know much about Buddhism and its teachings.
To joke or quip in jest behind closed doors if you're ignorant is barely tolerable, but certainly not when one is addressing a congregation of worshipers who tithe regularly.

[KuchingKu]

I heard a friend also like that. He is only son somemore. He refuse to wear the funeral biege clothes with headgear and refuse to offer joss sticks. Also refuse to join in the chanting. Luckily the nehews went thru the whole process. Sad but true...

I am a believer in Christianity and Salvation etc. However, I am not baptised because my parents are not Christians and I want to preform this last rite for them in the future.

For me, my parents are more important than the almighty whom I have yet to meet. So, in the eyes of some Christians, I am not Christian in my thinking. I use to go to church until I feel too pressurised by the people there till I feel I must 'submit' entirely that I decided not to go. Then, those friends called me the rebellious child. And I thought only my parents have the right to use that term on me.

Once a while, I will sneak quietly into a Church or during friends' church wedding to have a little quiet time with God.

[75s]

I heard a friend also like that. He is only son somemore. He refuse to wear the funeral biege clothes with headgear and refuse to offer joss sticks. Also refuse to join in the chanting. Luckily the nehews went thru the whole process. Sad but true...

How does the friend and relatives of the deceased not know that the son respects his lost parent in his own way? Should he not be allowed to mourn the way he chooses to? By judging him are we not imposing our wills and beliefs on another?

[Nooch]

I wonder y he is nt jailed for his remarks.

[kenkelvin]

kinda dbl standard justice again.

a kid made some remarks about muslims and malays in his blog and was subsequently jailed.

this pastor made these kind of remarks in public..and got off scott free?

bro i agree with u. but i think our garment have his own difficulties for acting this way. i think most ppl know.

[Haolian King]

u ever hear children ( who's christain ) refuse to light joss stick for parents who pass away ?? ... wow lau... its jst paying respect nia mah... ddunno how come cannot use joss stick pay respect to parents...

I heard a friend also like that. He is only son somemore. He refuse to wear the funeral biege clothes with headgear and refuse to offer joss sticks. Also refuse to join in the chanting. Luckily the nehews went thru the whole process. Sad but true...

[Haolian King]

I believe only a small minority of black sheeps in every religions who are extreme in their thinkings.

I once encountered an incident in my poly days. I was walking along a pathway when a student approached me and tried to preach me to join his church. I told him sorry not interested. He then told me this "Do you know that those who don't believe in Christ will not be able to go to heaven?" I then told him that I will see him in hell when I die. Seriously I got my own rights and beliefs and I am free to choose, just like anyone else.

Of course not all are like him. But there are good ppl and there bad ppl in this world.