I found this advertisement this guy is just rude...

[Ender]

Turning up in a gathering?
This is an interesting story.
Where & when?
Pls share the encounter if u have further info.
I wish to refresh my memory.
Give u hint, I stayed in Taiwan from 2006 to 2007.
USA in 2008-9.
Japan from 09 till now
I pray this "gathering" that u or ur Risti bro are in Japan/USA/Taiwan?
Pls share the encounter....USA & Taiwan is very big
i may ask which hotel / restaurant that we met.
So pls prepare the story

erhmh, i meant that you and ruseel chong shld turn up at the same meeting to resolve the issue once and for all if you = russell chong...

[exxondus]

Fred,
Here are the excerpts of a definition of insult. "...In speech and in social settings, insults are words that tend to injure the psyche. Insults may be partially categorized as follows: Insult to intelligence e.g. idiot, moron, stupid, silly"

(Soure: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Insult)

Would anyone here (moderators or other bros/sis included) agree with Fred that being called ignorant is not an insult or degradatory, mild as it is?

Then again, I could be too sensitive.

to be honest, i was insulted when I read his reply that day. especially when I was just posting a comment in a what was otherwise had been a very family and friendly SGROC.

He could have also been feeling overly sensitive to retort in that manner to my otherwise harmless post. Alternatively, probably being insecured of his position might have been the trigger and hence, warrant him to retort in such a hostile manner.

think I am also like you, kinda sensitive hor WHERE IS MY XMM

on a side note, I think I better not over do such posts least I tio ban ban

[exxondus]

Fred, from whatever that I have read with regard to your posts thus far, be it on PAM's mkt, Rolex mkt. you are absolutely ignorant and most of your claims based on your limited knowledge, is insuifficient to speak for the whole market itself.

Now, to prevent yourself from wasting everyone's time further, please stop barking up the wrong tree as apparently, all you know is only within books, as well as an excel spreadsheet, which, anyone can easily conjure up without proper evidence. -> note if Fred can say things like no one likes to wear the same watch anymore and all those generation have died, I do not see what this paragraph cannot be considered as a fact too.

Please. do not give baseless assumptions like no one likes to wear the same watch and stuff like that. It only shows how puny one's mindframe can be and together with an absolute refusal to accept the common fact that there is a greater world out there.

There. I have give factual comments that are not baseless since your opinons can be considered factual, I do not see why anyone elses cannot be claimed otherwise.

AND like you mentioned and per your context with what defines an insult, I did not attack nor put you down. With regard to your reputaion on all the huge information in your posts, People can decide if you are really as knowledgable as what you claimed, or you are merely making personal assumptions and claiming them as fact in your posts.

cheers!

[toffeesthings]

Fred,
Here are the excerpts of a definition of insult. "...In speech and in social settings, insults are words that tend to injure the psyche. Insults may be partially categorized as follows: Insult to intelligence e.g. idiot, moron, stupid, silly"

(Soure: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Insult)

Would anyone here (moderators or other bros/sis included) agree with Fred that being called ignorant is not an insult or degradatory, mild as it is?

Then again, I could be too sensitive.

[triton]

Pardon me, but there seems to be a contradiction here.

you said you in japan from 09 till now. now = presently.

but you say you are in SG.

now im getting confused. first you say u are in japan then you say you are in sg.

you are not getting the credibility by posting contradicting information.

Give u hint, I stayed in Taiwan from 2006 to 2007.
USA in 2008-9.
Japan from 09 till now

I'm here till 15th Jun

[triton]

please give me the models and your name or seller's name so that i can ask the staff there, else how can i authenticate what you said is true.

You can always drop by and chat up e ladies there.
I'm sure they will tell ya

[Fred_Tan]

Insult mildly? Insult? Did I?

Fred,
Since you appear to have this issue understanding common terms as you may not have lived in Singapore for a while, let me put this discourse across to you with more clarity.

When you call people ignorant, it is tantamount to name-calling. In fact, let's call a spade a spade, to be called ignorant, is, to most people, an insult. And it puts them down.

But that won't affect you even IF, HYPOTHETICALLY, people call you stupid, right?
Because to you, it is not name calling or putting you down.
To you, 'name-calling' or 'labelling' occurs when people associate your name with local dishes.

So let's get this SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL clear now since you are not a Master of the Obvious.

You did not call anyone names or put people down per se.

You insulted, albeit mildly. But it is still an insult.

I suggest you apologize to Bro Exondus for calling him ignorant and perhaps plenty of this animosity will go the way of the dodo.

After all, you now "respect everyone here & all watch afficianados", right?

Your choice mate.

Who did I insulted here?
In what way was he/she insulted?
If I have insulted anyone, will Moderators stand to my insult.
Look at the e post that had been deleted e moment "insult" comes into play.
Did my post got deleted?

Look at all e brother that have been banned for insulting.
If I have insulted anyone here, why am I not banned by moderators?

For stating my piece of mind, some here got insulted?
Do I have to say the correct thing to everyone here all the time when I think it's not right?

For saying things as it is, someone here who's oversensitive & had been banned before albeit temporarily for insult is going to get an apology for insulting me (deleted by mods) in other threads?

Common, from accusing me of calling ppl names that I never did.
Now u r accusing me of insulting?

Moderators, have I?

[toffeesthings]

I didn't call anyone by names or did I put ppl down or accuse ppl with baseless accusations or going the way of dodo.

This a forum where myself has been called names related with food & etc...

Fred,
Since you appear to have this issue understanding common terms as you may not have lived in Singapore for a while, let me put this discourse across to you with more clarity.

When you call people ignorant, it is tantamount to name-calling. In fact, let's call a spade a spade, to be called ignorant, is, to most people, an insult. And it puts them down.

But that won't affect you even IF, HYPOTHETICALLY, people call you stupid, right?
Because to you, it is not name calling or putting you down.
To you, 'name-calling' or 'labelling' occurs when people associate your name with local dishes.

So let's get this SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL clear now since you are not a Master of the Obvious.

You did not call anyone names or put people down per se.

You insulted, albeit mildly. But it is still an insult.

I suggest you apologize to Bro Exondus for calling him ignorant and perhaps plenty of this animosity will go the way of the dodo.

After all, you now "respect everyone here & all watch afficianados", right?

Your choice mate.

[Fred_Tan]

So??

sigh...its apparent that you have no idea how harsh your words are, as well as how false and groundless some of your assumptions are. And you will never know cos its apparent you aren't one who self reflects before shooting others who disagree with you.

let's just forget it as I have no energy o argue furhter with people that refuse to listen.

For anyone who is interested, can see my reply here on Fred's comments.

http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=30758&page=4

Look at post #35 and his reply to my questions on post #37.

btw, before you refute that what you said are all facts and nothing but the facts, Let me tell you, one simple thing. I realy don mind nor dislike people wearing the same watch as me. Neither do my dad who is still very well alive thank you. 2 generations there in case you aren't aware. There you have it, what you said below no longer holds and is merely you barking up the wrong tree? Ney, just forget it......

Did I attack anyone here?
Call someone by names?
Accuse anyone with baseless claims here?

[Fred_Tan]

It's not crazy

I've been reading this thread since it started n i've since follow it like a HK drama. One thing i find it funny is that when one tell lies, pls always rem the lies tat u have said so tat when u say something later it won't conflict with ur lies tat u have said earlier. A moment ago, someone is asking ppl who wants him to treat them wantan n say tat he will reach there in 45 mins time but moment later he say tat he is in Japan. I haven heard of any airline tat can fly from Japan to SG in 45 mins times including airport n custom clearance. BTW does tis airline do exist?

I'm back for holidays in Spore to renew my expired passport and also to make some watch purchase & deliver a few watches last 2 weeks.....


I said I'm based & stayed in Japan.
But I didn't say I'm in Japan right now....

I also mentioned yesterday that Cedric Lim is going to look at my 217 today at noon.
That he did & my watch is now sold over a won ton noodle at Novena Sq at noon today...

There you go, twisting my words.
This & that.....wow

LOL

[Fred_Tan]

Hmm, why har?

Definitely not, Fred Tan was posting from a Starhub IP in Singapore yesterday and I could tell you the IP number but it seems that Cedric Lim has had the entire thread in question, deleted from the Panerisiti Collector's Forum. Hmmm, wonder why?

As well yesterday Mr. Cedric Lim posted the thread in question from JV Fitness in the Orchard Road area.

As KK has said in this thread, the 4D hit yesterday with both of these posts from Singapore in the same thread.

Something else is going on?
What do u think?

[Fred_Tan]

True

If that is the case, i believe richemont will have records. for

rolex which i have brought in to authenticate and there are parts that are not original which i ask them to state in the service report.

if you cant substantiate these sellers for one reason or another. it can be seen that it is a baseless accusations.

You can always drop by and chat up e ladies there.
I'm sure they will tell ya

[Fred_Tan]

Nope, I'm back to settle some stuff

does your now mean that as of the time of posting, you are in Japan?

I'm here till 15th Jun

[5218-201/A]

I've been reading this thread since it started n i've since follow it like a HK drama. One thing i find it funny is that when one tell lies, pls always rem the lies tat u have said so tat when u say something later it won't conflict with ur lies tat u have said earlier. A moment ago, someone is asking ppl who wants him to treat them wantan n say tat he will reach there in 45 mins time but moment later he say tat he is in Japan. I haven heard of any airline tat can fly from Japan to SG in 45 mins times including airport n custom clearance. BTW does tis airline do exist?

Very true, I estimate Fred Tan/Cedric Lim to be getting up in years as he is forgetting what he tells in other threads and tells exact opposite things in new posts.

But then again, there maybe an airline that may fly from Singapore to Japan in 45 minutes......

[5218-201/A]

wow!! how u managed to find out such stuff?

Quite simple, go to the Panerisiti Network 54 website, on every post they post the IP for each post. IP's can be traced very easy. Look at the posts at Panerisiti, on the right hand side at the top of each thread start and there is the IP address.

Fred Tan started a thread there yesterday selling a watch, here is the data, visible to ALL and as well posted in the post. Fred Tan (Login Fred_Tan)
from IP address 218.186.10.239

Thread in question, where the IP address is shown: http://www.network54.com/Forum/61171...%28Fred+Tan%29

IP trace: 218.186.10.239 IP:
218.186.10.239
218.186.10.239 server location:
Singapore in Singapore
218.186.10.239 ISP:
StarHub Cable Vision Ltd

http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/218.186.10.239