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  • Ender
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    Originally posted by Fred_Tan View Post
    It's not my intention to sell a fake Rolex Bracelet with my watch.
    The watch is real and the bracelet that came with it was a fake.
    I don't have much knowledge is Rolex especially vintage and when it was pointed out, I removed the post in all post including SG-ROC immediately.
    It's not my intention to pass a fake as real.
    I have also informed moderators here in SG-ROC and all forums that the post has to be taken down as the bracelets is fake very the moment expert in VRF pointed it out.
    I've reposted the same watch sans the bracelet in VRF without any issue as below:
    http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...28III+%9158%29
    Do not accuse me of selling fakes as no one has ever received anything fake from me
    all i pointed out was that you tried to sell a fake rolex bracelet.
    that is a fact.
    the good mods of VRF gave you the benefit of doubt on you not knowing that you were selling a fake bracelet and did not ban you but even so, the fact remains you put up a FS post which includes a fake bracelet.
    as for assembling a rojak 'complete' rolex and selling it without letting potential buyers know...did you also not know that it was assembled? did you also not know that such info was not disclosed?

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  • Ender
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    Originally posted by Fred_Tan View Post
    I didn't know about this thread till last week when it has been going on since 17-Mar.
    I was wondering why there are so many enquries outtta sudden during e last 2 weeks of May.
    I tot I will never sell any of e 4 watches.
    Now I know & that's why u dun see making noise there in that thread.
    In fact I'm sad that it has stop.
    Maybe they should keep it up.
    OK, I am being sarcastic here...am I?
    For any other members, i wld be sure that it's sarcasm but it's you... so i really donno....

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  • Ender
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    Originally posted by Fred_Tan View Post
    Well, if u see all e threads that are flaming members against me & attacking me, u know who they are. I dun have to name em
    again, you made vague allegations that insinuate alot of things but when asked to back it up, you refuse...disclose them i say, and let readers make up their own mind if what they say or what you say has any basis.
    your unwillingness (or is it inability????) to back up your claim does not help you on the credibility front, which is one of the main grouse against you...

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  • Ender
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    Originally posted by Fred_Tan View Post
    How do u know they are not going against me for stealing their business.
    I'm not saying it's them....
    How do you know?
    errrh, you are the one who brought this issue of members being moles targetting you on behalf of grey dealers who may have lost biz because of you.
    i just pointed out that if it is purely grey dealer vs grey dealer, you don't see other long-time dealers getting the nonsense your infamous name seems to generate.
    by your reasoning, how do you know that these grey dealers couldn't care less about you and all these 'attacks' you are whinging about are from genuine individual collectors?

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  • Ender
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    Originally posted by Fred_Tan View Post
    TURF, sorry not TZ-UK, I copied & pasted my bookmarks wrongly.
    My point is have u seen the same things with same completeness, same condition & same pics been sold in other forum with others' name?
    There's only one name that I've ever used.
    In fact we have the exact situation in SG-ROC where traders uses multi-login or hire moles to post & lynch me.
    are you saying that i cannot adopt different nicks on different forums to sell the same watch? i didn't know there is such a rule...
    if there is no such rule, of course there is no breach right?
    as i have said, this is not the issue that made members/ collectors worry, if you do not already know.. ppl started taking notice of you when you started having id crisis on p.com and tried to inflate prices via a diff nick..

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  • Fred_Tan
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    Did u see me say anything in that thread?

    Originally posted by Ender View Post
    wall of text attack!

    Now u r adopting a in-direct attack by calling me thru food names.
    I like it!
    Thanks to ur posts in another thread last week where 5000+ have seen ur post, I've sold 3 watches (317, 249 & 318) in less than 2 weeks. really appreciate e wanton noodle publicity.
    It really works.
    I guess you are being sarcastic here. But if it works, then let it be loh...
    I didn't know about this thread till last week when it has been going on since 17-Mar.
    I was wondering why there are so many enquries outtta sudden during e last 2 weeks of May.
    I tot I will never sell any of e 4 watches.

    Now I know & that's why u dun see making noise there in that thread.
    In fact I'm sad that it has stop.
    Maybe they should keep it up.

    OK, I am being sarcastic here...am I?

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  • Fred_Tan
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    Originally posted by Ender View Post
    wall of text attack!

    I have even bring many clients to ur shop and recommended many more.
    Why flame e members here when I only take away business of 6-7 watches from ya tis yr?
    Why bother creating so many phantom membership here and give each of ur phantom members up to 20+ good trade feedback since 2008 in SG-ROC and only post to frame me with false accusations?
    Who are these 20+ good trade feedback members?
    Well, if u see all e threads that are flaming members against me & attacking me, u know who they are. I dun have to name em

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  • Fred_Tan
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    Originally posted by Ender View Post
    wall of text attack!

    & I dun see any problem anywhere except some members in SG-ROC that I suspect are moles who work for local traders whom have lost business bcos of me.
    Maybe. But you must agree that it is strange that only you get targetted and not any other grey-dealer? I do not see Kim Choy, the Lois, Kenneth & Co. etc being flamed the way you have. And they have been in the biz much longer than you.
    How do u know they are not going against me for stealing their business.
    I'm not saying it's them....
    How do you know?

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  • Fred_Tan
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    Originally posted by Ender View Post
    wall of text attack!

    VP.com, VRF, BIGWatch, Panereh, SG-ROC, The Rolex Forum, WatchNet
    TimeZone, TZ-UK, WatchTalkForum, TURF, DeluxeMall, WatchUSeek, Eq of Time, WWF, ConnectingWatches
    If I have multi login ID & multiple names like Rusell, Chong, Teo, Cedric & whatever other than Fred Tan, don't u think it's funny that I still can post in all e above 17 forums since 2008?

    Someone must have been able to detect my static IP & IP address by now, if indeed I've been using multiple identity in forums and face-2-face, eh?
    We have been through this before in another thread.
    Just on TZ-UK, if you are a member of TZ-UK, care to share with us what your ID is there? Cannot find any posts by member 'Fred Tan'.
    In any case, your reasoning is flawed - what's so funny that you are allowed to use different IDs for different forums? Being a member of these forums also means nothing unless you are an established and noted member of each of them? On WUS, my ID is A and on SG-ROC, my ID is B, why should the forums ban me?
    These forums may tolerate you havin different IDs because there is nothing wrong in that but the members' grouses are you are on a different issue altogether.
    TURF, sorry not TZ-UK, I copied & pasted my bookmarks wrongly.
    My point is have u seen the same things with same completeness, same condition & same pics been sold in other forum with others' name?
    There's only one name that I've ever used.

    In fact we have the exact situation in SG-ROC where traders uses multi-login or hire moles to post & lynch me.

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  • Mille
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    Originally posted by Fred_Tan View Post
    Can you quote me & show to everyone here that I "put other people down, call other people names, make fun of other watchmaking brands whilst worshipping panerai at the same time"

    I wear an expensive watch?
    Wow, I didn't know that.
    Have we met or are u just another troll?
    http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=30758

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  • Fred_Tan
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    No biff, baff & but

    Originally posted by Ender View Post
    I have not met KuchingKu before. I have a bro here who has met with him.

    Can you share with us why you think KK is a mole for grey trader and why this grey trader has an issue against you, and what this issue is?

    As far as I can recall from your previous posts, are you not also a grey trader? What's your biff against grey traders? I get all my watches from grey traders!
    I have no biff against anyone here or other forum.
    Ppl who works for traders here as mole do have biff against me.

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  • Fred_Tan
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    Originally posted by Ender View Post
    wall of text attack!

    People have seen u running watches to polishing ctrs for these traders.
    Golden Mile Complex is a nice place to sip tea & observe as these so called traders & these days, their moles make an entrance to these workshop.
    The coffee here is bad & e tea is worst but it's worst the study.
    C'mon, having tea with dealers makes me a mole for them?! Jialat, like that, I am mole for alot of dealers too, including car dealers, housing agents etc.
    Have tea with dealers is not a matter.
    Bringing watches after watches for dealer to polish every week is another matter alltogether.
    Just goto Golden Mile Complex & have a look

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  • Fred_Tan
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    Fake bracelets

    Originally posted by Ender View Post
    wall of text attack!


    If u r polishing watches and claiming otherwise, I'll keep my mouth shut.
    Have I told anyone? Absolutely no.
    Do I endorse this tactic by traders? NO!
    Do I do such things? Hell No!
    But you did caught trying to sell a fake rolex bracelet on VRF and you did assemble a rojak 'complete' watch and tried selling it as if it's a complete original package yes? Btw, all these came from your recent exploits on VRF.
    [/COLOR]
    It's not my intention to sell a fake Rolex Bracelet with my watch.
    The watch is real and the bracelet that came with it was a fake.
    I don't have much knowledge is Rolex especially vintage and when it was pointed out, I removed the post in all post including SG-ROC immediately.
    It's not my intention to pass a fake as real.

    I have also informed moderators here in SG-ROC and all forums that the post has to be taken down as the bracelets is fake very the moment expert in VRF pointed it out.

    I've reposted the same watch sans the bracelet in VRF without any issue as below:
    http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...28III+%9158%29

    Do not accuse me of selling fakes as no one has ever received anything fake from me

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  • Ender
    replied
    Originally posted by Fred_Tan View Post
    P.com
    VP.com
    VRF
    BIGWatch
    Panereh
    SG-ROC
    The Rolex Forum
    WatchNet
    TimeZone
    TZ-UK
    WatchTalkForum
    TURF
    DeluxeMall
    WatchUSeek
    Eq of Time
    WWF
    ConnectingWatches

    If I have multi login ID & multiple names like Rusell, Chong, Teo, Cedric & whatever other than Fred Tan, don't u think it's funny that I still can post in all e above 17 forums since 2008?

    Someone must have been able to detect my static IP & IP address by now, if indeed I've been using multiple identity in forums and face-2-face, eh?

    Are u implying the moderators are tolerating this behaviour, when they are actually NOT & will never even hesitate to ban in seconds when they find this, if indeed these accusations are true.

    Dun forget moderators and members in this & other forum have deal with me face2face all over e world & no one has posted anything negative on me.

    & I dun see any problem anywhere except some members in SG-ROC that I suspect are moles who work for local traders whom have lost business bcos of me.

    If u r polishing watches and claiming otherwise, I'll keep my mouth shut.
    Have I told anyone? Absolutely no.
    Do I endorse this tactic by traders? NO!
    Do I do such things? Hell No!

    People have seen u running watches to polishing ctrs for these traders.
    Golden Mile Complex is a nice place to sip tea & observe as these so called traders & these days, their moles make an entrance to these workshop.
    The coffee here is bad & e tea is worst but it's worst the study.

    The nearby Nasi Warung Pariaman is a good place for lunch.

    If u file off e "4" in ur case, and use thinner to erase millesimation, name & dates off warranty booklets & get caught, is it my fault though I maybe responsible to helping to catch u?

    Ur shop now have hardly anyone visiting even when u have close to 30 watches.
    Is tat my fault too when ur price is too high & u r known for selling plished watches and claiming otherwise on many occasion?

    U get caught for income, GST tax evasion & paid hefty fines.
    Is that my fault too?

    Have I harm ur trade before.
    Have I said anything bad about u & ur business & ur watches?

    I have even bring many clients to ur shop and recommended many more.
    Why flame e members here when I only take away business of 6-7 watches from ya tis yr?

    Why bother creating so many phantom membership here and give each of ur phantom members up to 20+ good trade feedback since 2008 in SG-ROC and only post to frame me with false accusations?
    Why is all ur trade feedback are only among e few SAME 20+ ppl?
    Only 20+ ppl play watches in SG-ROC?

    Why is all of u 20+ members here sell no watches and e only post I see are tirades against me since 2008?
    This is not e 1st attack by u all.
    This will not be e last.
    Many of u moles have been banned here for flaming me directly in e past.
    But u keep coming back with new nicks.

    How come I dun see e same 20+ nicks in other forums?
    U only exist in SG-ROC?

    Now u r adopting a in-direct attack by calling me thru food names.
    I like it!
    Thanks to ur posts in another thread last week where 5000+ have seen ur post, I've sold 3 watches (317, 249 & 318) in less than 2 weeks. really appreciate e wanton noodle publicity.
    It really works.

    While other grey sellers hardly sold anything this year, I've sold 6 watches maybe 7 by noon today thanks to u moles here.

    Keep it up.
    I can pay by wanton noodles if u wan.
    Just call me 8179.9089.
    If I'm in town, I will be with u in 45min anywhere.

    If u have proof that I have scammed anyone, pretend to be anyone other than myself, pls provide it to all the moderators of all the 17 forums above.
    I am sure they will like to kill me.
    wall of text attack!

    VP.com, VRF, BIGWatch, Panereh, SG-ROC, The Rolex Forum, WatchNet
    TimeZone, TZ-UK, WatchTalkForum, TURF, DeluxeMall, WatchUSeek, Eq of Time, WWF, ConnectingWatches
    If I have multi login ID & multiple names like Rusell, Chong, Teo, Cedric & whatever other than Fred Tan, don't u think it's funny that I still can post in all e above 17 forums since 2008?

    Someone must have been able to detect my static IP & IP address by now, if indeed I've been using multiple identity in forums and face-2-face, eh?
    We have been through this before in another thread.
    Just on TZ-UK, if you are a member of TZ-UK, care to share with us what your ID is there? Cannot find any posts by member 'Fred Tan'.
    In any case, your reasoning is flawed - what's so funny that you are allowed to use different IDs for different forums? Being a member of these forums also means nothing unless you are an established and noted member of each of them? On WUS, my ID is A and on SG-ROC, my ID is B, why should the forums ban me?
    These forums may tolerate you havin different IDs because there is nothing wrong in that but the members' grouses are you are on a different issue altogether.


    Are u implying the moderators are tolerating this behaviour, when they are actually NOT & will never even hesitate to ban in seconds when they find this, if indeed these accusations are true.

    As above.


    Dun forget moderators and members in this & other forum have deal with me face2face all over e world & no one has posted anything negative on me.
    Eh, I think all these problems you having (name me any other grey dealer in Singapore that has the same problems you have) are because of the way you have been representing yourself via the internet.

    & I dun see any problem anywhere except some members in SG-ROC that I suspect are moles who work for local traders whom have lost business bcos of me.
    Maybe. But you must agree that it is strange that only you get targetted and not any other grey-dealer? I do not see Kim Choy, the Lois, Kenneth & Co. etc being flamed the way you have. And they have been in the biz much longer than you.

    If u r polishing watches and claiming otherwise, I'll keep my mouth shut.
    Have I told anyone? Absolutely no.
    Do I endorse this tactic by traders? NO!
    Do I do such things? Hell No!
    But you did caught trying to sell a fake rolex bracelet on VRF and you did assemble a rojak 'complete' watch and tried selling it as if it's a complete original package yes? Btw, all these came from your recent exploits on VRF.

    People have seen u running watches to polishing ctrs for these traders.
    Golden Mile Complex is a nice place to sip tea & observe as these so called traders & these days, their moles make an entrance to these workshop.
    The coffee here is bad & e tea is worst but it's worst the study.
    C'mon, having tea with dealers makes me a mole for them?! Jialat, like that, I am mole for alot of dealers too, including car dealers, housing agents etc.

    The nearby Nasi Warung Pariaman is a good place for lunch.

    If u file off e "4" in ur case, and use thinner to erase millesimation, name & dates off warranty booklets & get caught, is it my fault though I maybe responsible to helping to catch u?
    Ur shop now have hardly anyone visiting even when u have close to 30 watches.
    Is tat my fault too when ur price is too high & u r known for selling plished watches and claiming otherwise on many occasion?

    Wahhh.. SIC ley!

    U get caught for income, GST tax evasion & paid hefty fines.
    Is that my fault too?

    Are you referring to the same dealer that you said you powtoh to IRAS before? No wonder he pissed with you lah...but karma's a biatch

    Have I harm ur trade before.
    Have I said anything bad about u & ur business & ur watches?

    Aarrrbutthen, if you bun-knife him to IRAS.....

    I have even bring many clients to ur shop and recommended many more.
    Why flame e members here when I only take away business of 6-7 watches from ya tis yr?
    Why bother creating so many phantom membership here and give each of ur phantom members up to 20+ good trade feedback since 2008 in SG-ROC and only post to frame me with false accusations?
    Who are these 20+ good trade feedback members?

    Why is all ur trade feedback are only among e few SAME 20+ ppl?
    Only 20+ ppl play watches in SG-ROC?
    Why is all of u 20+ members here sell no watches and e only post I see are tirades against me since 2008?
    This is not e 1st attack by u all.
    This will not be e last.
    Many of u moles have been banned here for flaming me directly in e past.
    But u keep coming back with new nicks.
    How come I dun see e same 20+ nicks in other forums?
    U only exist in SG-ROC?
    Nothing new here. So, as above.

    Now u r adopting a in-direct attack by calling me thru food names.
    I like it!
    Thanks to ur posts in another thread last week where 5000+ have seen ur post, I've sold 3 watches (317, 249 & 318) in less than 2 weeks. really appreciate e wanton noodle publicity.
    It really works.
    I guess you are being sarcastic here. But if it works, then let it be loh...

    While other grey sellers hardly sold anything this year, I've sold 6 watches maybe 7 by noon today thanks to u moles here.
    Nothing new here. As above.
    Keep it up.
    I can pay by wanton noodles if u wan.
    Just call me 8179.9089.
    If I'm in town, I will be with u in 45min anywhere.

    If u have proof that I have scammed anyone, pretend to be anyone other than myself, pls provide it to all the moderators of all the 17 forums above.
    I am sure they will like to kill me
    Muahahahahha, here we go again....

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  • Ender
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    Originally posted by Fred_Tan View Post
    What is e funniest of e funny.
    Again I wanna ask.
    Me or u?
    Why e interest to attack me?
    It seem's like e only post u made here are attack against me or Cedric, Lim, Fried Wan Tan or Rusell, Teo, Chong or whatever that u wanna link to me.
    Tell me u r not a mole.
    I think the moderator should check your IP address.
    It could be coming from grey traders shop in shopping complex....
    I have not met KuchingKu before. I have a bro here who has met with him.

    Can you share with us why you think KK is a mole for grey trader and why this grey trader has an issue against you, and what this issue is?

    As far as I can recall from your previous posts, are you not also a grey trader? What's your biff against grey traders? I get all my watches from grey traders!

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