Update on the finding of my omega speedmaster mark 2

[JAMYLIM]

Yep I guess thats what I will do as soon as I find the time...Not easy when you are working up in Tuas....Thks...

[polarinda]

Guess not much you can do then.
Well i guess you have to get it running on your own.

[JAMYLIM]

Bro,

Even if I have his photo I wont even want to put it here for all to see. If you want maybe you can ask him to put it on his own free will. If you have seen my profile -- you would have seen my face. Thats because I want to be upfront and let people see who they dealing with but I'm not implying those who refuse to put their photos are having some ulterior motive....
But since he has already stated his real name and mobile number --- thats all I have of him. Appreciate your input. Thanks.

[JAMYLIM]

Bro, good morning.. I agree. I wont go to the extend of going to his house or school or work place or hunt him down like some "ah long"...If I really want to I would not have come to this forum to air my frustration and would have spend my energy to go hunt him down that way but thats not what I intend to do. I agree Paul may not even misrepresent his watch benefit of a doubt but what I dont like is his unwillingless as a last owner of the watch to set things right. I'm not even asking him to take back the watch or give me back my watch---all I want of him is to put the watch right into working condition thats all --- and I dont give a damn about those unoriginal parts that repairer pointed out...Thats the least I expected from him but he can say is max S$300 and nothing else.
That to me is running away from his responsibility especially the cheap words of guarantee only to add in his terms after the problem surfaces and then to tell me he never open the watch before and yet he has shown the watch in an open condition describing the condition as beautiful in his sales forum...All the things just pointed to one thing if you know what I mean. Anyway thanks...

[dominique_kwok]

Which school he teaches?
Can make appt to see the principal.

Hmm... Let us all be professional and not emotional about the matter... Going to his school to look for the principal is sinking to a new low. It is a choice one makes. In matters we cannot control, why continue to harp on it. Bro Jamy, i truly believe that you have learnt a valuable lesson.

As always, most of us shop here knowing of the calculated risks involved. What matters is we have been honest in our dealings. If others choose to do otherwise, would we really want to kick a big fuss up over money?

i don't know about many of you but for me, drawing another person's work, family and all in does not reflect too well on our own individual character.

Paul may or not have have mis-represented his watch. How he inculcates values to his charges will be something only he will fully know. He is only truly answerable to his own conscience.

[polarinda]

Which school he teaches?
Can make appt to see the principal.

[JAMYLIM]

But folks sorry to say this...but I have lost all respect for someone like this..
I believe with all my heart that the seller knew the existing problem and I can swear from the time I took it till the time I first notice the problem the following morning that I didnt abuse it, drop it, open it or in any way cause it to work in this manner.
I even took a few shots of it that very night I got home and it was even shown to another young guy who came to my place to look at my other watch. I was still proudly showing to him my new acquisition. If none of this exist - a watch dont turn bad just over night...even the repairer also sad you cant possibly get it magnetise over night unless you work in an environment with very strong magnetic field which I'm not.
All the findings/his words so far has led me to believe in my heart the very character of this person.
If everyone here can put the pressure on him... find out who he purchase this watch from...whether was there any enquiry being made about the repair prior to that.... whether has anyone heard him mention about this watch before...
I wouldnt say he is a cheater but just a one off thing that he tried to get rid off or he be stuck with it.

If only I have his address I would like to send this watch to him and let him have it as a present...Money can be earn back and even if for some unfortunate event that I cant earn it back then its only the pain of money and this pain only last for a period and life goes on.
Well done my friend.

[polarinda]

We wont know him unless you describe his looks here bro.

[JAMYLIM]

Another thing is if I'm not wrong he could have purchase this watch in August this year and that is why he need to get rid of it...probably after he found something wrong with it. I trace his past purchase and found that he purchase a Speedmaster in August.
Hope everyone know him by now and to be extra caution if you guys ever want to deal with someone who give you word of guarantee and days after that he tell you "guarantee also got terms"... Really a smart guy.

[JAMYLIM]

Actually what I really dont like about this Crippy is his disowning responsibility and not being gentlemen on the verbal guarantee he gave me. You can see that he is never true to his words. He only came up with the terms after the problem is found and while he shown on his sale forum the inside beautiful Omega movement in his sale pitch and yesterday he can tell me he didnt open the watch before. So all along he is misrepresenting something he is trying to sell. So we can all see how he try to get away with words. That is what I dislike about people like him so much so I dont even want his money. For some people reputation does comes cheap.

[Rolex01]

Lemon law only applies to biz to consumers.

Biz to biz not covered
Individual to another individual not covered.

[Mille]

since its a vintage/preown/used watch, we shouldnt touch about the topic of condition. so we will leave that out

1. Since there are non original parts in the watch, then the watch should be replaced with original parts.
2. Now that the watch loses time after purchase, what was it caused by? was it the seller's fault or was it the buyer's fault? Did the watch lose time before purchase or after purchase?

Watches that lose alot of time are not functional.

1. the fault cannot be attributed to buyer, but to the seller
2. the fault could lie with either one of them, and if what jamy says is true, its the seller's fault.
If not, its the buyer's fault - something could have happened along the way. Both of them have to sort out to see if the fault was present before or after the watch purchase.


once 1 and 2 is figured out, they should proceed to either do the repair(once liability is determined), or the buyer should get a refund.


of course, jamy would have an advantage since the lemon law provides for any future recourse, but do be reasonably fair to the seller as well as far as possible - did anything happen to it under your care?.

Then again, conditon aside, all watches sold in garage are always sold as fully functional(unless otherwise stated) and fully original - that is always the understanding between seller and buyer.

[wolfeyes1974]

I believe some people buy vintage watches for value.

What will happen to the value of the vintage where some part of the parts are not original?

If it's vintage, all the more the owner should send to authorised servce centre..at least there's a service guarantee that can be passed to the new owner to have an ease of mind.

i won't pay a single cent for a frankenstein watch...it's no value compared to vintage watches with original parts

[JAMYLIM]

dont anyone have something nice to say to the seller?

[Mille]

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