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Thread: Advise needed on two PAM models :312 and 000

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    Default Advise needed on two PAM models :312 and 000

    Good evening all,

    am trying to decide between a 312 or 000

    Prefer 000 as loving the simplicity
    312 for the 3 days power reserve and mature look.

    know nuts about movement . can advise if there a big diff between OP calibre and P9000?

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    Lots of difference between 000 and 312. Manual (basic movement) vs 3-day Automatic, 312 uses 1950 case, 312's thicker, 312 has date window, 312's Luminor Marina, etc.

    Question is whether 312 justifies the delta in $$$? Personal choice between the 2 watches as they are quite different to each other

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    000 uses a midified unitas 6497 movement which has a long history. A vwry reliable workhorse, imho.

    The 312 utilises pam's in-house p9000 calibre which, imho is just a "better" mousetrap. Bur coa it'a in-house, u pay a bit if premium for it.

    The p9000 isn't my favourite movement. It's got the noisiest rotor. There were some issues with my early series 320, which uses the p9001, basically a p9000 with gmt and caseback pri.

    Took quite a few visits to pam boutique to rectify aeveral problema, including rotor alignment, spinning rotor but not winding rhe movement, movement fast by up to 5 minutes a week .

    Unless you are one of those suckers who feel that in-house MUST be better than go for it. Otherwise, stick to the 000 which appears to be in higher demand. And is powered by a tried and proven movement.
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    sorry for a noob question

    anybody can explain manual winding?

    meaning i need to wind it few round before wearing then it will move normally for the next 24 hours?

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    You will need to fully wind in order for the power to last 56 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahkiat View Post
    sorry for a noob question

    anybody can explain manual winding?

    meaning i need to wind it few round before wearing then it will move normally for the next 24 hours?
    Manual wind requires u to eind using the crown in order to get it moving. Full wind will keep the watch going for between 42-56 hours depending. For base pams, usually 56 hours or more. A generic 6497 usually lasts 42 hours thereabouts.

    It's similar to a wind-up toy. Same principle. No matter how u shake there is no rotor to wind the main spring.
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    Default 312 for sure

    I had radiomir manual winding n sold it.Sometime forgot to wind ,halfway d time stop n nvr bring my phone out sibeh jialat is like my watch just accessory lol...hahhaa..now i owned all automatic watches like pam104,pam359 n others brand auto only.Pam 1950 confirm nicer that luminor case,in my personal opinion lar,young mah hahaha

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    Manual winding is more historically correct for Pam.

    For those who don't care about history, getting an automatic may be more convenient.

    Personally I have no preference. Both also can. When I wear my manual usually for a few days in a row I like the feedback when winding it. Feels good. When wearing automatic I just wear and go no need to think.

    As a first Pam between 312 and 000 however I'll take the 312 although it's much thicker.

    I no feel for the 000. Prefer the 112

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    I very much prefer the Pam 000 because it's the most iconic model reflecting the storied legacy of Panerai

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    The PAM 0 for sure. But not the current snap in casebacks and the springbars. Get a used one with screw in caseback plus the screw in bars.
    Check out my Amateur Watch Blog @ http://parte-di-tempo.blogspot.sg/



    tsetse the fly hard to make more $$$ so can buy more timepieces

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