I found this advertisement this guy is just rude...

[5218-201/A]

U gave us the feeling u r in Spore & wanting to eat me for lunch.
And when asked out, u suddenly in Jakarta?

Pls get a life

Just show me the post where I invited you to lunch, it does not exist, I did invite you to a GTG in July, but will you make it?.

[5218-201/A]

Enders what is scary about your post above is that Fed Tan was selling a fake Rolex bracelet and yet he claims he could not spot it while holding it in his hand and looking it but it was spotted on here only by people veiwing photograghs?

Whoa and this guy is suppose to be a professional?

[Fred_Tan]

2 Issues -

1st One - Fake Rollie Bracelet
Let me try to understand you better on this.
So at the end of the day, if anyone were to ask this question - did Fred Tan try to sell a fake rollie bracelet on VRF?
The answer should be - No, because the fake rollie bracelet that he had put up for sale on VRF was spotted by diligent members and he then removed it. Fred Tan claims that he did not know that it was a fake.

Also, are you saying that you should not be faulted for trying to sell the fake bracelet because it was too good a fake?
But are you not the seller representing that it is genuine?
Was the fake not spotted?

2nd One - Rojak Rolex
This is what you said yesterday -

"Accidentally selling parts that are fake is normal in VRF.
This is not a big deal in any forum as long as u remove the post & stop the sale.
There're so many fakes even the long term sellers have been caught there but everytime they got highlighted like me, they took action to remove it.

So, in what way was I intentionally trying to rip someone knowingly when I have even remove all post not only in VRF but all forums?
As for the rojak, in which way I didn't disclose this?
I post a WTB to make e set complete & sell the set as complete so that I can improve my profit.
When I posted the WTB, it's under my name & ppl who bothered to search will know.
There's nothing wrong with that and improving profit my adding tags, boxes, blank papers & anchor is acceptable.
Hey, it's my 1st Rolex FS post in VRF, I didn't know that I must state this watch as rojak and I was told to state it after my 1st post in VRF by moderators.And that I did immediately.
So what is the problem here?
U have posted all u post correctly e 1st time in all sale forums?
I'm still posting without any issue after that in VRF & SG-ROC
BTW, a moderator here in SG-ROC did contacted me after I ask for my sale post to be taken down & he offered to help & he also indicated understand my situation and clearly know that my intention NOT to cheat knowingly.
Do not try to make an issue outta no issue, if that what u r not intentionally doing."

So as of 6 June 2010, according to what you had posted, you did not state that the other rollie you were selling was a rojak because "ppl who bothered to search will know" from your previous WTB posts. Nice.

But as of today, you now say that "And I did state clearly that my 'rojak' watch is an assembled piece in my post."

So what is your real position?
You should be careful with your words.

I dun have to go thru the twister u are trying to twist out here & it's clear u r merely trying to make an issue out of none.

If I did what u said & claimed, will I still be in all 16 forums today?

[exxondus]

just wondering. Would RSC be able to spot a fake rolex bracelet?

Fred probably did not send the watch to be authenticated after buying it cos he trusts his knowledge too much?

[Fred_Tan]

201, pls dun bother. Ur words are no longer believable

...

U gave us the feeling u r in Spore & wanting to eat me for lunch.
And when asked out, u suddenly in Jakarta?

Pls get a life

[Ender]

Well Like I said before, I pull the sale off without any1 here in SG-ROC telling me to.
I informed the moderators immediately & one of them even voluntered to help me.
So I didn't sell or deliver any fake bracelets watch.
Careful with your words here.
U r accusing me of knowingly & intentionally selling a watch with a fake bracelet that even the moderators & most esteemed member in VRF cannot accertain...I have emails from them that I can send to u if u r interested.
I have took side-by-side pictures of the bracelet thanks to a SG-ROC member here who was kind enough to PM me & even come out to see me with his bracelet when he found out from my responce to my own sale thread that my bracelet is fake.
Thank to his help I was determine that the bracelet is in fact a fake when even esteemed member & moderators in VRF can't by taking some photos.
The fact remain that I pull the sale post without being told to do so in all forums...Other flipper/ seller / traders will just post a withdrawal without any indication that the bracelet is fake.
Also, no one including the moderator in VRF or any esteemed members there even told me to remove my post.
The post was removed at my request.
No moderators & esteemed member in VRF even questioned my bracelet.
In fact they can't even tell & was bewildered when I request for e post to be pulled.
I have emails from em & I can forward to anyone here who's interested.
So u tell me who's not being honest & truthful here?
U or me?
U r not being truthful for twisting the situation & making is appear that I intentionally cheated.
And I did state clearly that my 'rojak' watch is an assembled piece in my post.
So do not twist my words here.
You are obviously spewing lies & out to lynch me

2 Issues -

1st One - Fake Rollie Bracelet
Let me try to understand you better on this.
So at the end of the day, if anyone were to ask this question - did Fred Tan try to sell a fake rollie bracelet on VRF?
The answer should be - No, because the fake rollie bracelet that he had put up for sale on VRF was spotted by diligent members and he then removed it. Fred Tan claims that he did not know that it was a fake.

Also, are you saying that you should not be faulted for trying to sell the fake bracelet because it was too good a fake?
But are you not the seller representing that it is genuine?
Was the fake not spotted?

2nd One - Rojak Rolex
This is what you said yesterday -

"Accidentally selling parts that are fake is normal in VRF.
This is not a big deal in any forum as long as u remove the post & stop the sale.
There're so many fakes even the long term sellers have been caught there but everytime they got highlighted like me, they took action to remove it.

So, in what way was I intentionally trying to rip someone knowingly when I have even remove all post not only in VRF but all forums?
As for the rojak, in which way I didn't disclose this?
I post a WTB to make e set complete & sell the set as complete so that I can improve my profit.
When I posted the WTB, it's under my name & ppl who bothered to search will know.
There's nothing wrong with that and improving profit my adding tags, boxes, blank papers & anchor is acceptable.
Hey, it's my 1st Rolex FS post in VRF, I didn't know that I must state this watch as rojak and I was told to state it after my 1st post in VRF by moderators.And that I did immediately.
So what is the problem here?
U have posted all u post correctly e 1st time in all sale forums?
I'm still posting without any issue after that in VRF & SG-ROC
BTW, a moderator here in SG-ROC did contacted me after I ask for my sale post to be taken down & he offered to help & he also indicated understand my situation and clearly know that my intention NOT to cheat knowingly.
Do not try to make an issue outta no issue, if that what u r not intentionally doing."

So as of 6 June 2010, according to what you had posted, you did not state that the other rollie you were selling was a rojak because "ppl who bothered to search will know" from your previous WTB posts. Nice.

But as of today, you now say that "And I did state clearly that my 'rojak' watch is an assembled piece in my post."

So what is your real position?
You should be careful with your words.

[Fred_Tan]

Well, dun forget I am from Spore

They live in Singapore? Really?

And there're many more watch fans out there in Spore outside SG-ROC.

[Fred_Tan]

it's too early

Thanks for the entertainment. I really need to sleep.

Pls play with me

[5218-201/A]

Cos I have asked many many frens & even myself who have went there since the days b4 they moved and after, it seems like everyone have no problem..

Maybe we can do a pool.
I'm not saying they are perfect.

My 5 best frens & 20+ ppl whom I've been asking off the jest had never face any prob there.Sometimes e prob is not e Ctr, sometimes e prob is e customer.
In Spore, a very small % of watch owners like act up in service Ctr.
Just ask e gals at e counter & they will have lotsa horror stories to tell.

BTW, have u dealed with Rolex, AP & Patek Svcs Ctr before?
I think Rolex is e worst.

They live in Singapore? Really?

[Fred_Tan]

Really? Is it only u & ur wife & ur one last of e mohican's fren

all i am saying is there is some basis for complaints against Richemont's service.
what's my basis?
the bad experiences of my wife and a good friend of mine.
can you say that Richemont's service is 100% faultless?
what's your basis?
at most, you can distinguish the experiences of my wife and my friend and say that generally Richemont service is good save for a few negative ones.

as for your last comment, time to take some medication since you are jumping at shadows.. other than 4 members here whom I am aware of (3 of whom has gone MIA), I have not met anyone from this forum. out of these 4, none have posted anything on this thread.

Ender

Cos I have asked many many frens & even myself who have went there since the days b4 they moved and after, it seems like everyone have no problem..

Maybe we can do a pool.
I'm not saying they are perfect.

My 5 best frens & 20+ ppl whom I've been asking off the jest had never face any prob there.

Sometimes e prob is not e Ctr, sometimes e prob is e customer.
In Spore, a very small % of watch owners like act up in service Ctr.
Just ask e gals at e counter & they will have lotsa horror stories to tell.

BTW, have u dealed with Rolex, AP & Patek Svcs Ctr before?
I think Rolex is e worst.

[RTS]

I would like to attend this if fred is coming along.. with or without the free T-shirt..

[5218-201/A]

I never said I sold any watches in Taiwan & Japan, did I??
I never moved there to sell watches.
My move's for work & not related to watches. SURE you didn't.

There you go shooting ur foul mouth with lies again.
Stop e lies when u have been caught posting from Jakarta when u claim to be in Spore. Maybe you could show me where I claimed anywhere that I was in Singapore? Anywhere.

Ur post got deleted in P.com, right?
Is it bcos u attack someone or is it bcos the mods have detected same IP address being used by different nicks?
Pls come back to us on this...

Bullcrap, I can still logon there and guess what, 3 of my posts got deleted in that thread when they cleaned it up, 4 of your posts got deleted there and about another 15 from other posters were deleted but as usual according to you only the bad guys posts got deleted, the US guys on there nailed you for what you are. Can you explain why you asked the Mods over at P.com to finally elete the thread? & Yeah, we know what watch u sold recently.
Can see from e "Sold" threads.
Dunno if it's real or not. And dunno if u actually sold a watch. Really, which one? Give us all a link to this thread

If I'm e buyer, I'll surely bring it for RSC checks.
Coming from someone who scream repeatedly on e entire weekend for my blood & wanting to see me face2face in Spore to but later say he couldn't come, if I'm e poor buyer who bought a Rolex from u recently, I'll definitely make sure RSC strip every part to check.... Hey if you look in this thread I invited you to a GTG when I am in town in July not any other time, you really do have a bad memory but refer to this thread to get it back.
Btw, I dunno if u actually sold a watch of was it just a phantom post along with some other phantom post in Kopi corner & Panerai corner to "validate" urself before u spring an attack on me like a mole & troll. Actually if you read the first post on here that I started, I was going after Cedric Lim, who as it turns out seems to be you as per the other posters here, in my original post, I never accused you of being Cedric Lim, do understand written English? But with you now here admitting I was coming after you, are you also admitting that you are Cedric Lim?
Did someone in Spore offer u discount for ur future watch purchase if u slander me? No, no one in Singapore is selling a Pre-V I am interested in.
Mole & troll 201A.... According to who? Fred Tan? Cedric Lim? Russell Chong or all of the above?

Pls keep e attack up & maybe u some1 in Spore will knock off a few hundreds off an item u have been eyeing all e way from Jakarta. Please refer to the answer above.

...

[Fred_Tan]

Shiok lar

Fred, how can we invite you to our gathering tomorrow? There'll be a fist fight if you show up. You keep on rubbing everyone the wrong way... Just relax and others will tend to forget and forgive. But you keep on arguing

Hey, I'm still on trow

[Ender]

Maybe it's only u & a few ur mates...
If Richemont Ctr service is bad, there should be thousands of ppl saying so now, right?
If I'm not mistaken, we have thousands of viewer in this thread, right?
They should be getting pretty worked up now when I say I have never had a bad service b4.
I guess it's only ur wife & few of ur mates here?

all i am saying is there is some basis for complaints against Richemont's service.
what's my basis?
the bad experiences of my wife and a good friend of mine.
can you say that Richemont's service is 100% faultless?
what's your basis?
at most, you can distinguish the experiences of my wife and my friend and say that generally Richemont service is good save for a few negative ones.

as for your last comment, time to take some medication since you are jumping at shadows.. other than 4 members here whom I am aware of (3 of whom has gone MIA), I have not met anyone from this forum. out of these 4, none have posted anything on this thread.

Ender

[KuchingKu]

Before I can be ur cancerous mole, I would have died of ur stinking mouth even when I'm at ur bum that's at e rear u know?

U knoe?
It seems like u have 2 exit holes

Thanks for the entertainment. I really need to sleep.