Full set got full set price.
Watch only has watch only price.
As long as you are not paying full set price for a watch only....cool.
Full set can also be stolen, fake, Or cheated from.
I don't really care what's the reason box and papers gone. If no box and paper, then follow that price. Btw, my wife did really threw away a paneri box of mine many years back. Cos, she sees it as useless and taking up space.
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I understand your point of view and concerns raised, it's very common among the typical Singaporeans.Originally posted by SpeedFreak View Post
To be honest...ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. It could be stolen,it could be counterfeit, it could be sold without the real owner's consent.
I only see the facts in front of me, which is the watch itself. Whatever the seller's story or reason for selling, I will always take it with a pinch of salt. You can sell for whatever reason, which you don't wish to tell me and use something to cover up. There's no right or wrong about it. There's no law that says you must tell the real reason why you want to sell it. So just listen and continue checking out the watch while the seller tells his story.
If he's out to scam you, you are still gonna get scammed the moment you want to buy it. Cannot run from it, just have to take the next step to mitigate the issue.
As long as the item you are getting is what you feel is worth paying for, then by all means get it. His "selling story" may not match very well..but as long as you know what you are getting, I think it's fine.
Your questions:
Is watch authentic? -> If you have doubts with the seller's words, can always verify at whichever place you are comfortable with.
Is watch stolen? -> That is something beyond your control, just like buying TOTO, it's not within your means if you win the first prize.
Is there less resale value -> Yes resale is lower, but you buy cheaper and you sell cheaper. Isn't it the same as paying more for a watch with cert and selling off higher than one without? Whichever is comfortable to you
and makes you smile in your sleep while wearing it.
Item sold without consent -> Say that happens...IF seller asks you to sell back to him due to that reason, the ball is in your court to believe it's the truth or not right? What makes you think that person is telling the truth? (Think again
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IF seller doesn't ask you to sell it back to him...then how you know? Just enjoy your watch
My personal view on NO Box and or Papers.
Box- Got money can buy, most (98%) of the boxes used by the different companies are generic across most models.
Papers - Got money cannot buy, but does having papers mean that it's authentic? NO. because anything can be possible.
As I always advice people, if you cannot overcome the mental barrier of the watch having any issue like those mentioned...nobody can help. Just buy brand new for a peace of your mind
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NO Box - NO Papers
Hello all.
There have been several great watches that I've come very close to purchasing in the past because of No Box - No Papers. But at the end, the nagging feeling stopped me.
- Is the watch stolen?.
- Is the watch a counterfeit?.
- Is the watch being sold without the real owners consent? (wife selling husband's watch?)
- Is there less re-sale value, when I want to sell in future?.
The common remark that i hear from 'owners' is that they lost the box during moving. But how can you lose a Rolex box?. Is it not important enough to keep safe?.
I just wanted so other points-of-view.. Maybe I should take the plunge and buy NO-box/No-paper???? any feedback would be great.
thanks
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