Cheated By Seller!

[wolfeyes1974]

Bro Mazingerz, pls lah, why must we go to the extent.

Please don't be offended if I quote an example. you also sell some watches and have 15 good ratings. If someone name you at the blacklist thread, would you be happy. you maybe will debate and then the war will start again. and if more than one case then the forum will be like a court lah. Sorry this is just a example lah.

hi bro,

no one is able to tell if the links are fakes because we're not expert...we cannot say that it's buyer's responsibilities for not checking thoroughly for your case.

so what if the seller have good feedbacks for all his sales...and you want to give him a road to walk...the truth is he's being dishonest or ignorant when he bought the watch from overseas/other sources...by giving him a bad rating you're helping us as members to be careful and also him as seller because he may not know that he's bought a watch with issues...

to not "expose" him is not doing any parties good...and it defeats the purpose of itrader..

do we walk away when we witness a car accident and possibly others may get hurt in the future ?...no doubt it's a serious crime and may not be an apple to apple comparison but this is a misrepresentation that needs to be addressed.

whether it triggers a war or not is irrelevant...it doesn't mean we won't buy from the seller anymore...we recognize good deals here but buyers will be more careful and take the extra step of verifying teeh watch when dealing with him

cheers

james

[mazingerz]

who is the rapist???
Run away again???

good rating ? bad rating? NO white elephant rating!

[mazingerz]

blacklist is to protect buyers or sellers from rapists.. anyway it is just a "friendly" forum.

[StanleyWee]

RSC verification got include checking the fake links meh?

Yes. Of course! they even count how many links you have. and any damage to the link and this when they notice any fake links.

[StanleyWee]

Bro Mazingerz, pls lah, why must we go to the extent.

Please don't be offended if I quote an example. you also sell some watches and have 15 good ratings. If someone name you at the blacklist thread, would you be happy. you maybe will debate and then the war will start again. and if more than one case then the forum will be like a court lah. Sorry this is just a example lah.

[mazingerz]

Rapists

blacklist thread could protect buyers from these rapists!!!

[tomcatf]

I always demand a RSC verification before paying the seller, this is to ensure a fair deal for both party.

[Red Devil]

So the moral of the story is...... get IT verified @ RSC for $75 then deal

If U do a calulation, $75 is really only 0.88% of the watch if is $8500

RSC verification got include checking the fake links meh?

[jarren]

I think that most dealers are ethical as long they don't sell fake watches. Most important watch head must be genuine. Some defects is ok lah.

i agreed more healthy thread to share on defects on watches that sellers sell is ok. But to condemn on sellers or to bring down the shop name board is not ethical lah. That is the time Moderators must take actions and close the thread. i support it! If not then ppl will any how condemn sellers and dealers falsely.

realised my mistakes and i asked the mod to close/delete the thread. btw, i moved on. kept the watch and end of chapter.

[116520]

Correct! I think things will end up with ALL dealers being blacklisted...

I think that most dealers are ethical as long they don't sell fake watches. Most important watch head must be genuine. Some defects is ok lah.

i agreed more healthy thread to share on defects on watches that sellers sell is ok. But to condemn on sellers or to bring down the shop name board is not ethical lah. That is the time Moderators must take actions and close the thread. i support it! If not then ppl will any how condemn sellers and dealers falsely.

[DM101]

So the moral of the story is...... get IT verified @ RSC for $75 then deal

If U do a calulation, $75 is really only 0.88% of the watch if is $8500

[StanleyWee]

I think that most dealers are ethical as long they don't sell fake watches. Most important watch head must be genuine. Some defects is ok lah.

i agreed more healthy thread to share on defects on watches that sellers sell is ok. But to condemn on sellers or to bring down the shop name board is not ethical lah. That is the time Moderators must take actions and close the thread. i support it! If not then ppl will any how condemn sellers and dealers falsely.

[mike1972]

Sorry my english score E lah.

My main concern is I just want to point out that bracelet links also got fake ones and buyers must be careful.

I think our the moderators did is very correct. If they don't do it with iron fist then the forum have no law and order. Anyone can just accuse anyone of something wrong.

That's why in the forum it is better not to condemn anyone. And furthermore, we can't blame the sellers as we did not check the watches properly first before payment. Some buyer even give positive ratings to seller then later bite back that the watch got problem. i feel that it is not fair to the sellers.

Of course myself is one of them. but luckily I did not give positve ratings to the seller before discovering the defects.

But sellers have to be ethical and have integrity mah...If not think many of this thread will appeared in this forum. But anyway...there will be risk in buying pvt dealers here. Unless you save all the trouble and buy from AD. But still when price is concerned... ppl will still choose to buy from pvt dealers here.. Just hope that pvt dealers here are honest.

[StanleyWee]

Sorry my english score E lah.

My main concern is I just want to point out that bracelet links also got fake ones and buyers must be careful.

I think our the moderators did is very correct. If they don't do it with iron fist then the forum have no law and order. Anyone can just accuse anyone of something wrong.

That's why in the forum it is better not to condemn anyone. And furthermore, we can't blame the sellers as we did not check the watches properly first before payment. Some buyer even give positive ratings to seller then later bite back that the watch got problem. i feel that it is not fair to the sellers.

Of course myself is one of them. but luckily I did not give positve ratings to the seller before discovering the defects.

[116520]

Because we are living in a place where we are taught not to voice out anything...

I think this defeats the whole purpose of having a rating system. If it's good
give a rating. If it's bad, don't give a rating. We may well end up in a situation where a person has a collecton of good ratings, will nil bad ratings, when in effect he has a mix bag. So we end up having a system with no bells and whistles to warn us of black sheep.

Why is this the case? Well it could be the person who experienced a bad is wary of making a bad rating because there will be endless exchanges. And when the exchanges get pretty hot, one or both may find himself banned from
the forum. So one suggestion to moderators is not to use the iron fist too often.