I need everyone's help!

[triton]

what u say is true because you need to feel and see a real one before knowing it is a real or fake.

But having all that talk, the sensing of a fake can only be possible if one has (or at least used to have) a real one, to actually know how a real one is like. Otherwise, how'd one know if a fake is a fake

I've never held, touched, felt a real daytona in my life, so I can be easily duped if a good fake passes me by

[Oceanklassik]

But having all that talk, the sensing of a fake can only be possible if one has (or at least used to have) a real one, to actually know how a real one is like. Otherwise, how'd one know if a fake is a fake

I've never held, touched, felt a real daytona in my life, so I can be easily duped if a good fake passes me by

[Darkangel]

Bro if such a piece bring to RSC to verify are they able to tell the difference? Is it good enough to bluff the technician as "real" piece

Impossible to bluff the technician...

Well...at the moment all of us see pics and we compare from there thinking it's hard. Well the fakes have succeeded visually..say 80-90%

BUT! Wait till you hold the actual piece guys...try handling 1...it's not that tough actually.

[psee]

Really happy that things work out fine for you

[bubbfish]

Was still feeling bad for your cheated watch today...
Glad to read you got it back

[DM101]

Just to add on, for the past years, I had come across many good fakes with genuine rolex dials, rolex steel cases & watch crowns...


But for the recent 1-2years, I saw some very good replicated calibers/movements in high end fake watches.. eg; the engraving on the oscillating rotor, and serial numbers on the bridge were very well done. The workmanship is relatively fine too.

The lesson learnt: even though when we saw caliber/movements that bear the rolex trademark on it, we can't be too complacent too.. The market has fake movements out there..

Just to share my thoughts..thanks and good health to all : )

Bro if such a piece bring to RSC to verify are they able to tell the difference? Is it good enough to bluff the technician as "real" piece

[edsonchan]

bro edson, if u made a police report already, I believe there is no way you can now go to the police and tell them you don wanna pursue this matter as you got your watches back.

reason being, there was an attempt at fraud (which is a crime) and the police will not let the person off just cos you don wanna pursue. to make matters worse, if the police pursue and you know where the person is but don wanna tell them, you might get yourself into trouble.

just my 2 cents. you need to be clear abt the complications you getting yourself into cos the police report has already been made.

Yes I know about that. The police takes over from now.

[phantom628]

Just to add on, for the past years, I had come across many good fakes with genuine rolex dials, rolex steel cases & watch crowns...


But for the recent 1-2years, I saw some very good replicated calibers/movements in high end fake watches.. eg; the engraving on the oscillating rotor, and serial numbers on the bridge were very well done. The workmanship is relatively fine too.

The lesson learnt: even though when we saw caliber/movements that bear the rolex trademark on it, we can't be too complacent too.. The market has fake movements out there..

Just to share my thoughts..thanks and good health to all : )

now thats a scary thought...

[exxondus]

bro edson, if u made a police report already, I believe there is no way you can now go to the police and tell them you don wanna pursue this matter as you got your watches back.

reason being, there was an attempt at fraud (which is a crime) and the police will not let the person off just cos you don wanna pursue. to make matters worse, if the police pursue and you know where the person is but don wanna tell them, you might get yourself into trouble.

just my 2 cents. you need to be clear abt the complications you getting yourself into cos the police report has already been made.

[dorje khen]

Felt sorry for u too...

Just to add on, for the past years, I had come across many good fakes with genuine rolex dials, rolex steel cases & watch crowns...


But for the recent 1-2years, I saw some very good replicated calibers/movements in high end fake watches.. eg; the engraving on the oscillating rotor, and serial numbers on the bridge were very well done. The workmanship is relatively fine too.

The lesson learnt: even though when we saw caliber/movements that bear the rolex trademark on it, we can't be too complacent too.. The market has fake movements out there..

Just to share my thoughts..thanks and good health to all : )

[Fred_Tan]

Escalations

Hi everyone,

First and foremost I would like to thank everyone for your concerns. I am touched by the PMs that were sent to me. I am motivated by many of you that gave me precious advice. You guys made me believe that there are still many many kind souls around. Unfortunately, I am deeply saddened by the fact that some of the PMs that I have received contain information about other victims similarly in my shoes. I am also unfazed to know that the description of the culprit matches though our conversation.

I would like to thank the person who gave me vital information about the culprit.
I would like to thank Fred for asking me grandmotherly long questions that causes awareness. People read my reply and realized who the person is.
I would like to thank the moderators of SG-ROC.
I would like to thank the moderators of ***. They really gave me a big help by putting up the stolen watch alert on their home page.

The culprit has come forward to me and returns me both my watches even before I approach him at his house. He has proved that he is sincere and I believed him.

Many others have benefited from the discovery of this man.

Thank you!

Jason,
I'm glad for ya.
It's also vital that others who had been affected found justice.
It's critical that the affected parties are able to seek redress.
I see 2 things that u can help:
1) Hook the others whom are affected to Melvin so that re-dress can be taken
2) Hook the other victims who has contacted u to ur investigating officer so that this guy can be dealt by e law.

There's no 2 way bout this as I'm very sure he'll strike again in future.
The law has to be applied on him.
No choice.

There many be other victims who may have not realized their watch could be fake and had not seen our notices about "Melvin".
There's no way we can know how many victims fall into Melvin's scheme.

We also cannot let Melvin off thinking that "Melvin" had returned all the monies & watches as he cannot be trusted no matter how sincere or good is he now.

So, I propose 2 things to everyone here:
1) Gather & Publish "Melvin"'s deed to all watch forums, New Paper, Police, Straits Times, Business Times and STOMP so that more of his victims can come forward and deal with him as well as our police, if they chose to.
2) Anyone who wanna approach "Melvin" should not go it alone. He could retaliate if many ppl start banging on his door. My best bet is he'll elope once the fire up his arse get's bigger. Bring along as many frens, brothers, German Shepherds, Rotweillers & bodyguards. Don't fight. Dun touch him. But do protect urself. Be vigilant for aggressions & attacks. Make sure u tell him nothing of where u stay. Leave him no addresses.

Thanks.
Good luck.
Stay cool; it's just watches - dun risk ur lives...

[ohlins]

congrats on the happy ending...

[edsonchan]

I am grateful and again need to thanks everyone who have contributed.

[Fred_Tan]

I did nothing...it's Jason who never gave up...

Dear Jason,
Glad you got your beloved watches back, but be sure to have them verified in case 'Melvin' did something to them.
I wish the same to other bros in the forum who may have been duped by this unsavory character.
Suffice to say, the real watches he sold were most likely duped of in trades.
I hope other plaintiffs get their pieces back as well.

Kudos also to Fred Tan who instigated the description and led to the successful retrieval of your beloved pieces!

I think many owe Fred a coffee or something! : )

Jason, u r a lucky chap!

[Fred_Tan]

Jason, CONGRATS!

Wow, u r lucky!
Many are cheated in other forums & never even see the skin of e teeth...

We must be vigilant.
I think comments in Rolex Forum that Sporean watch community take it easy is true.
Moving forward, I think we cannot just deal with SMS, email & phone calls.
I reckon, I'll need to visit Rolex Ctr more...