I need everyone's help!

[Fred_Tan]

Scary sial

Once and not long ago, I wanted to buy a used Rolex GMT from a forumer here. I asked for particulars, and IC no. in order to write up purchase agreement between us. To protect myself in case the watch is fake or stolen and etc.

You know what?...... The forumer/seller back out.

I thought this thing only happen outside SG.
Looks like SG's longest ever campaign that says, "Low Crime doesn't mean No crime" rings a bell in my ophbiang head now.

[Paneraii]

Once and not long ago, I wanted to buy a used Rolex GMT from a forumer here. I asked for particulars, and IC no. in order to write up purchase agreement between us. To protect myself in case the watch is fake or stolen and etc.

You know what?...... The forumer/seller back out.

[wolfeyes1974]

I will try to keep it short and simple.

2 weeks ago when I posted my PAM312 out for sale, I got a respond from a forum member. As we communicated through SMS, I do not have his nick. He acknowledge himself as Melvin on the phone.

He wanted to purchase the PAM312 and later suggested that he prefer to trade with his black 116520 instead. He even made an offered to have 2 of my watches on sale for his 116520. The other watch is the Bell and Ross 01-92.

We agreed to meet around my house one evening. He brought 3 Rolexes, a SD 'D' series, a Submariner Half Gold that he wore that night and the Daytona "F". All his watcnes are with boxes, paper, manual + tags. In a way, he presented his watches as full set.

As I am only interested in the Daytona, I decided to look out for the authenticity . Black ring at crown, sweeping hands, the functionality of the chronograph function etc. Everything seems to be ok.

We traded both of my watches with his. Later at home, I even remove the bracelet and checked the lugs, the model number is correct and the serial number matches. I didn't find anything amiss till then.

The next day, I send an SMS to him, wanted to ask for the selling price of his SD. There was no reply. I tried to call his mobile and realised that it is turned off. Finding it weird, I check his number through my friend and discovered that the number is from a pre-paid SIM.

I brought the watch to my friend's pre-owned shop to open up the back case and confirmed that it is a fake. In fact, I brought to another shop to check as well to re-confirm this piece of information.

A police report was made and Richemont has been informed about this case.

I have thought about it and decided not to dwell too much on it. Anyway, this person indeed has ill intentions due to the fact that he was using a pre-paid card the whole time. His watches even have certification to 'trick' people.

I kept this story in the first place, thinking that I might "alert' him and put him on guard. I do not think that I will find him already anyway. Therefore, I think I should inform all fellow members here to be wary.

If anyone is holding to the PAM 312 that I mentioned in the beginning of this thread, I hope that you can give me more details of how you get this watch and hopefully we can find the culprit so that no one else will fall for this again.

I am handling it well and treating as a lesson learned. I have no one to blame but myself and my love for this hobby.

The 116520 is now resting in the box. I am impressed with the workmanship!

yeah bro...hope ya take it easy....i'm sure the bros here all feel for ya...

[Fred_Tan]

Local guy? Chinese? Tall?

Bro,

I'm gonna sound like a grandmother & police...
Hope u dun mind....

What name did he use introduce himself?
Did anyone call or sms him during his visit to ur home?

Can you describe him?
Is he Chinese?
Is he local?

Is he bespectacled?
Moustache? Bearded?
Hair style?
Any colouring or highlights? Straight hair? Permed like PCK?

Does he smell like smoker or alcoholics?

Any marks like moles on his fingers, arm, face, neck or legs?
Is he muscular? Any spare tyre?
Fat? Slim? Slender? Average built? Can u agak-agak his weight?

Can u estimate his height? Tall?

Is he dark? Average complexion?

Any tattoo on arms, feet, angle, legs or arm ?
Gold or steel looking rings on any finger? Any peculiarity on the rings?
Gold or steel looking bangles on any wrist?

Speak Mandarin, Hokkien or English or mixed?
Is his Mandarin, Hokkien or English or mixed good? Bad? Average?
What colour, design, brand, & model is the shirt, pants & shoe that he wear?

Is he an Ah Beng like me? Ah Seng? Beng Seng mixed?

From ur 6th sense, what do you think he is? Ah Lung? Bookie? Flipper like me? Bandits? Robber? Child raper? Cheat? Killer? Office-type? Nerdy? Beng? Seng?
Let us know how u feel bout him when u see him?

Is he handsome or good looking like me?
Ok, sorry for pulling ur leg. Slap me 10 times. I shouldn't be.

Did he come alone? Did anyone come w him?
Did anyone waited on him below e block or void deck.

Did he give u any fake business cards?
Did he tell u anything else besides the watch like what he do and what he like?

Did he walk like a duck?
And if u can describe his face? Any freckles?
Any moles or dark spots or pimple scars?
How about his eyebrow? Thick? Straight? Trimmed like gays?
He got nose like pig? Or sharp like Andy Lau?
His lips? Like pervert bubba? Or like Leon Lai?

What cigarette brand did he carry or smoke (if he smokes)?

I think if u can remember all this, it'll be great!!!

We maybe able to form a generic description of this fella...and place it a database in WatchNet.

U can also make a copy to help our police.
Hope u are still steady.

[Democritus]

Sorry to hear this.

Hope the case sufface up.

In any case, take it as lesson. Rolex got plenty of fakes around. Either buy from a very reputable place/friend or bring to RSC.

[edsonchan]

No ****!
Such things happen in Singapore?
Did you happen to see what car he drives or even the number plate?

If I did, I will post it here already.

The only thing I know about him is the HI-CARD no: 8347 7928

[patricia]

Thanks.

No ****!
Such things happen in Singapore?
Did you happen to see what car he drives or even the number plate?

[edsonchan]

Hope you handled the loss well, sad to learn about it.

Please remember to post your story on the major forums, ***, WUS, Timezone.com, Purist.com, paneristi.com. It's a long shot but it will deter the seller and alert the buyers.

I am sure the police can trace the other calls made from the pre-paid card and see it there's any lead from the other people he called - maybe if they know that this is a fraudster, can help with his nick here or in some other forums.

I have tried to post as many as possible already. Thanks for the advice.

The police is taking their time to 'investigate". Guess these are non-important cases.

I am handling the loss well... In fact, I am already targeting on some new watches.... LOL

[wind128]

Hope you handled the loss well, sad to learn about it.

Please remember to post your story on the major forums, ***, WUS, Timezone.com, Purist.com, paneristi.com. It's a long shot but it will deter the seller and alert the buyers.

I am sure the police can trace the other calls made from the pre-paid card and see it there's any lead from the other people he called - maybe if they know that this is a fraudster, can help with his nick here or in some other forums.

[edsonchan]

PAM312
K Series: K1440
Serial No: OP6746 BB1326308
Brand NEW condition, FULL SET
Warranty date: 11Oct09
Ad stamp: Charles Greig, V & A Waterfront, Cape Town, South Africa

BR01-92 PVD Coated
Serial number 01924
Undated warranty card

[RTS]

Man, dont worry, Karma will get him faster than the police does..

[louisoh]

Bro.. sorry to hear about your case. Think the safest best is still to authenticate all watches before $ or goods swich hands...

I was thinking if we should have a list of 'BLACKLISTED' Serials so as to stop these scammers from profitting. Do PM me the details of your watches and i'll see where i can post up these blacklisted numbers...

[edsonchan]

Can the mods please move this thread to a more appropriate category?

I am not sure which one though

[edsonchan]

If I have his login ID, I will definitely share it.

We did not communicate by PMs. He SMSed me.

I do not have his login ID. This is sad.

Leads are exhuasted

[Fred_Tan]

Bro, can u share his iD?

I hope u dun mind sharing his Login ID here at the very least