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Really love the 351, it has a nice class to it! But $1k exp than 312.Originally posted by johnfish View PostI assure u gonna like the 312 wif no issue over your wrist at 6.5" . Mine was a puny 6.3" & I love how it look on me " Here my pam351 similar case size in titanium "

312 on the wrist! You will grow to love it. I know I did!!!
104 is nice, esp the chromy look. But bear in mind it gets scratched more easily than the brushed casing of 312, so it may be more obvious, esp if you wear it as a daily beater!
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I assure u gonna like the 312 wif no issue over your wrist at 6.5" . Mine was a puny 6.3" & I love how it look on me " Here my pam351 similar case size in titanium "Originally posted by bearbearfury View PostDear PAM Collectors,
Can you give me some advice? I was thinking to upgrade my PAM to a automatic as i am tired of winding my PAM 111...I was thinking of 104 or 312.
I am drawn to PAM 104 as it is much affortable as it can be obtain under $7000 from grey dealer and it has the the same casing as PAM 111. The things i do not like of PAM 104 is the non clear back and the crownguard. Thew newer entry level PAM has already upgraded their crownguard except PAM 104.
For 312, i like everything except that i read the review in the forum that it looks bigger and fatter than the entry level PAMs due to its casing and the higher price than PAM 104. i have a small wrist about 6.5 inch and i am worried it looks awkward on me.
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for me i will go for the brush 1950 casing. polish and brush combination really brings out the watch.
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all boils down to $, preference, fit ..... but between the 2, i will take the 104
Cheers
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Hihi, I have a 6.5" wrist too and I had before both 104 and 320, 320 looks exactly the same as 312 except it has a GMT needle. It fitted my wrist perfectly. Go ahead and get the 312! Thats my recommendationOriginally posted by bearbearfury View PostDear PAM Collectors,
Can you give me some advice? I was thinking to upgrade my PAM to a automatic as i am tired of winding my PAM 111...I was thinking of 104 or 312.
I am drawn to PAM 104 as it is much affortable as it can be obtain under $7000 from grey dealer and it has the the same casing as PAM 111. The things i do not like of PAM 104 is the non clear back and the crownguard. Thew newer entry level PAM has already upgraded their crownguard except PAM 104.
For 312, i like everything except that i read the review in the forum that it looks bigger and fatter than the entry level PAMs due to its casing and the higher price than PAM 104. i have a small wrist about 6.5 inch and i am worried it looks awkward on me.
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Thanks everyone advise and also thread, it is very informative.....Originally posted by bearbearfury View PostI want to try the 312 today. Seems fatter due to the back casing that house the movement. I was offered 104 at about $6750 weeks ago but i wanted to sell my PAM 111 first. Now after selling the PAM 111 but it is sold. There are really many 312 for sale the forum. Not sure what is the reason......
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It may due to many ppl bought it when it launched and decided to sell it just like you after wearing it for a while or need $$$$ to flip other watches too,etc...Next 312 production quite alots so it obviously shown that more ppl bought it n coincidence that they sell it respectively.
On the other hand, like one of forumer mentioned,if you had a smaller wrist plus u had tried wearing on 312 and not so comfortable.
It's better to get 104 instead as it will never go wrong for daily wear, my 3 cents info,ciao
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I want to try the 312 today. Seems fatter due to the back casing that house the movement. I was offered 104 at about $6750 weeks ago but i wanted to sell my PAM 111 first. Now after selling the PAM 111 but it is sold. There are really many 312 for sale the forum. Not sure what is the reason......
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Opps, forgot to state my recommendation. Go for the 312 for the 1950s casing. Very nice!!
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dude, you can check this out... I would go for 312
http://www.wristwatchphoto.com/2009/...-compared.html
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I used to own 3 pams with P9000 movement. None gave any problems. Where you heard that from? And I visit Panerisiti forum everyday, dun recall seeing any post regarding problems with P9000 movement at all.Originally posted by barra View PostMany issues with Panerai P9000 in-house movement. Stay with ETA if want a robust proven movement.
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