Wiggle ???

[Rolex48]

Hi,

I am new to Rolex, I have been reading this forum for the past few days. nice forum.

wanted to ask this question.

what does it mean when a seller post "NO Wiggle"
or
some member here post "do the wiggle test"

any kind bro here can advise what is "wiggle"

TIA.

[Oceanklassik]

Hi and welcome. I think there's a link to this that actually shows a video clip on the demonstration of the wiggle test. Try to search. I think "wiggle" here refers to an action that a ROLEX watch shows, when you do something to it. It gives an indication on the type of movement in the watch.

[champagneluver]

Hi,

I am new to Rolex, I have been reading this forum for the past few days. nice forum.

wanted to ask this question.

what does it mean when a seller post "NO Wiggle"
or
some member here post "do the wiggle test"

any kind bro here can advise what is "wiggle"

TIA.

There are claims that some of the newer GMT Master II watches come with the new 3186 movement instead of the 3185 movement.

The best way to verify this is of course to open the case and see for yourself. But I am sure this is out of most of our capability.

With a GMT Master II (or Explorer II), unscrew the crown and pull it out 1 click (to the quick date set mode which will advance the hour hand without moving the other hands). Turn the crown to move the hour hand up and down.

It is claimed (I hear say this that is why the word "claimed") that the RED 24-hr hand will not "wiggle" if the movement inside is a 3186. Otherwise, the RED 24-hr hand will "wiggle".

It is also claimed that those GMT Master II watches that come with the new 3186 movements has "sticks" in the word "GMT Master II" instead of the roman "II".

I tried on the Y-series Explorer II and the RED 24-hr hand does "wiggles" when the hour hand is moved as described above.

[Darkangel]

Wah gd question...this 1 I myself dun even know! hahah

[seiko.citizen]

Wah gd question...this 1 I myself dun even know! hahah

serious?? would have thought a resident forumer be quite armed with this type of knowledge do a youtube search, there is a vid there

[tomcatf]

Hi Bros,

My W series GMT II does not wiggle leh. So it is the 3186 does ?

[Rolex48]

Thanks for all the reply

[Rolex48]

There are claims that some of the newer GMT Master II watches come with the new 3186 movement instead of the 3185 movement.

The best way to verify this is of course to open the case and see for yourself. But I am sure this is out of most of our capability.

With a GMT Master II (or Explorer II), unscrew the crown and pull it out 1 click (to the quick date set mode which will advance the hour hand without moving the other hands). Turn the crown to move the hour hand up and down.

It is claimed (I hear say this that is why the word "claimed") that the RED 24-hr hand will not "wiggle" if the movement inside is a 3186. Otherwise, the RED 24-hr hand will "wiggle".

It is also claimed that those GMT Master II watches that come with the new 3186 movements has "sticks" in the word "GMT Master II" instead of the roman "II".

I tried on the Y-series Explorer II and the RED 24-hr hand does "wiggles" when the hour hand is moved as described above.

Thanks for the detail.

[champagneluver]

Hi Bros,

My W series GMT II does not wiggle leh. So it is the 3186 does ?

hahaha... how about openning the case and have a look??

[tomcatf]

Just collected from SRC after service, confirm W series is 3185.

May be others people's movt are loose or lack servicing?

For me, every Rolex is not the same because they are all individually hand made by craftsman.

[seiko.citizen]

i think that thinking that your watch is individually hand made is flawed, because rolex churns out million watches per year, they would require a very high manpower to piece your watch. somemore it would be less than economically viable NOT to use robots and other automation devices.

therefore i am lead to believe that it maybe individually checked but not hand made.

[Oceanklassik]

i think that thinking that your watch is individually hand made is flawed, because rolex churns out million watches per year, they would require a very high manpower to piece your watch. somemore it would be less than economically viable NOT to use robots and other automation devices.

therefore i am lead to believe that it maybe individually checked but not hand made.

True. ROLEX watches are not fully handmade, otherwise there's no way they can produce the said amt of watches over such short periods.

[chongj88]

Just collected from SRC after service, confirm W series is 3185.

May be others people's movt are loose or let servicing?

For me, every Rolex is not the same because they are all individually hand made by craftsman.

Sorry to burst your bubble bro... As others have pointed out, Rolexes are NOT individually hand made. There might be some manual element in assembly but most of the parts are manufactured by machines. But having said that, I must say that they still have one of the most reliable and most accurate movements around. So hand made or not, the important thing (for me anyway) is they are reliable!

[tomcatf]

Ok Bros, wrong choice of words, I should say Rolex is assemble by hand and not make. Although all parts are machine to the perfection, but the watches are still manually assemble by the craftman.

I must agreed that all Rolex craftmen are world class, they are very good and competent. However, there will be different standard amongst them in term of their Knowledge, Skill and Ability, so performance of each an every end product will be different. That's why some of us are complaining their watch is either moving too fast or too slow, is this the fault of parts or the craftman's skill?

For me, I do have some rolex that is moving faster or slower than other, but that is the beauty of collecting manual assemble automatic watch, they are still the best watches when compare to those electronic stuff.

[tonyguy]

Ok Bros, wrong choice of words, I should say Rolex is assemble by hand and not make. Although all parts are machine to the perfection, but the watches are still manually assemble by the craftman.

I must agreed that all Rolex craftmen are world class, they are very good and competent. However, there will be different standard amongst them in term of their Knowledge, Skill and Ability, so performance of each an every end product will be different. That's why some of us are complaining their watch is either moving too fast or too slow, is this the fault of parts or the craftman's skill?

For me, I do have some rolex that is moving faster or slower than other, but that is the beauty of collecting manual assemble automatic watch, they are still the best watches when compare to those electronic stuff.

Whats?some rolex that is moving faster or slower ?
i thought rolex very acurrate in time?