My first few watches are Omega Plant Ocean (buy & sell - 2 times), then Panerai and finally a Rolex Sea-Dweller.
Must say Omega is value for money because it's build quality is Good and service standard at Swatch Group is Excellent.
However, Rolex price is expensive but it's build quality is Excellent. Service Centre standard is Good only .
If dwell into Rolex mechanical design, it's much better than omega.
As we progress, we appreciate the Heart of the time-piece more than the exterior design.
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For me there can be only 1 ....aka the "King" ,aka the "President"....the Rolex Oyster Perpetual DAY DATE.
Flagship of Rolex for more than 50 years ,worn by the leaders and captains of every Industry from US Presidents to CEOs of MNCs to Mafia Bosses,this is a leader's watch
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Omega advertise in Olympic, probably part of the reasons
I like both, is individual, buy what you like, like many old birds who always said here...
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Originally posted by exxondus View Post...but from what i noticed, preown ones are usually in the range of 2-5k. Untill recently, i was only interested in the much much older tudor subs, but that was because they were using the rolex sub cases (shhh and also because I cant afford a sub).
at such prices, i would rather fork out my money (and perhaps a few hundred dollars more) and go for an actual rolex sub.
from a collector's point of view, tudor subs are irreplaceable and thus worth the "premium."
however from a purely technical/practical point of view, there can be no comparison between the two submariners - the rolex movement is far superior to the 390/2824.
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Originally posted by HerzAusStahl View PostI like both, have both, and will continue to buy more of both
Have been drooling over this for some time, but biding my time for a good used piece to surface
Solar Impulse GMT
Think time for me to start saving up for this Omega liaoz and push my plans for a Sinn watch further back yet again
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Originally posted by overcrash View Postye man! its all sharing in good spirit. =) which i think is the most important thing in a forum! =)
i am still quite new in watch collecting, so got quite a newbie question to ask here, whats the price difference between a tudor and a rolex since they are meant for different markets ?
i think the writer was in a hurry to hand in his article then just glad "any pic" to submit together! hahaha! was he thinking that no one will notice? haha
heh, I also like watch collecting but mainly only pictures cos no money
not too sure of tudor prices but from what i noticed, preown ones are usually in the range of 2-5k. Untill recently, i was only interested in the much much older tudor subs, but that was because they were using the rolex sub cases (shhh and also because I cant afford a sub).
However, somehow, the new monte Carlo from tudor looks good toodubed as the poor man's daytona, I think I read somewhere that it is gg to retail about 5k+? which is less than half of what a daytona is gg to retail.
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as i didn't mention this... i like some of omega's watches. not all, but some.
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Originally posted by batamboy View PostTo each his own taste.. Planet Ocean is a nice watch,with 600m n bigger size, with additional co-axial escapement that wins over Rolex.
But rolex gotta improve on its upcoming design n sizes.
In US, Omega more popular than Rolex from what i heard.
1. if you think a watch is judged by its WR and size, you are mistaken.
there is no need for rolex to go into a "deeper is better" contest. all that is required for a higher WR is a slightly thicker crystal and caseback. depth ratings is, thankfully, not rolex's main concern - anyone can get an OEM design firm to easily churn out a 2000M WR watch.
additionally, rolex watches are extremely over-engineered as it is, with the 300M WR sub usually going way past the 300M mark in pressure chambers (i do not have the digits on hand).
further, the "larger is better" movement will end sooner or later, hence the decision by rolex this year to announce that they are retaining their 36mm men's datejusts based on that trend.
2. if you think the daniel's escapement (omega co-axial) is better than a rolex movement, you are also mistaken.
there is no point touting a longer warranty (3 years) and longer servicing interval if the beat rate is reduced. the beat rate was originally 28.8vph but reduced due to inherent problems with the movement as a result of implementing the co-axial escapement.
slow(er) beat movements can go on for longer periods without a service compared to a high(er) beat movement. this is just how wear and tear works.
the co-axial movement is better than the ETA-based omega calibres of recent past due to the escapement and fine adjustment upgrade, but it is in no way "better" than a rolex movement UNLESS...
you mean it is BETTER DECORATED than a rolex movement.
3. i have no clue what you mean by rolex improving on their design and size. hopefully this is not "larger is better, deeper is better" because we have uboats and panerais around.
are they "better" than omega?
subs have remained at 40mm for many decades, and likely to remain at 40mm for a long time more.
the rolex oyster case was and still is, designed to repel water and dust. this design has stood the test of time.
granted, rolex does not make the best watches (whatever that means) in the world. their movements, while ugly, are designed to be easy to service, accurate, robust.
rolex is in the business of selling expensive watches, not oneupmanship. there is no need for them to adopt any one else's design philosophy.
any design evolution will come about slowly, and as a result of a very careful and thoughtful process.
as worth noting: while not the biggest, rolex R&D/patent applications are legendary. the DSSD is a good testimony to that. and lest we forget, the original automatic HEV was a rolex patent.
4. you should never use hearsays, because we will never know how many watches rolex sells every year. but what we do know is: it is almost certain that rolex will raise their prices regularly. it is also certain that people will continue to save up and buy a rolex.
when was the last time you heard someone "saving up" to buy an omega?
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To each his own taste.. Omega wins over in terms of their most recent designs n sizes, Rolex wins by their movement. It depends which u looking at. Constellation 4 Ah-Tiongs only. Planet Ocean is a nice watch,with 600m n bigger size, with additional co-axial escapement that wins over Rolex. Of cos if u looking at resale, Omega not a high resale watch. But rolex gotta improve on its upcoming design n sizes. In US, Omega more popular than Rolex from what i heard.
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Seem like Omega is now touted as a more desire watch for the Ah tiongs, especially the classic series.
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Originally posted by exxondus View Postgood point.
I was refering to him saying about omega vs rolex, BUT using a tudor in his article's picture, which I find just shows how 'much' he knows about rolex.
As like you mentioned, tudor and rolex should be considered as seperate entities, hence, me commenting that he is only half correct in a certain way. And also later my comment saying that I doubt his credibility as he should be using a rolex pic instead if he is commenting abt the brand (unless the writer thinks Tudor can be considered Rolex)
just my twisted thoughts, nothing to be serious about here
i am still quite new in watch collecting, so got quite a newbie question to ask here, whats the price difference between a tudor and a rolex since they are meant for different markets ?
i think the writer was in a hurry to hand in his article then just glad "any pic" to submit together! hahaha! was he thinking that no one will notice? haha
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Omega went into China market early and is well established there.
Omega branding is stronger in China than other swiss brands.
Omega make good watches. Rolex, without saying.
Rolex is the most recognizable brand in the world, thus the value.
Without spare cash, I will choose Rolex.
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Omega can never reach Rolex status. Resale value for Omega is close to no value.
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