GMT-Master 16700 and GMT-Master II 16710

[keltzar]

"improved" is a subjective argument.

If you want the extra timezone sync, yes... it is.

If you just want an easy to adjust watch I think the older GMT-I with quickset date is less fussy.

[evets]

BTw, the 16700 and 16710 have very different movements. The 16700 is a quick-set date without decoupled hour-hand for changing timezone. The 16710 can decouple the hour hand to change timezone and uses two cycles to change date (a bit leh-cheh). I believe the 16710 was the first GMT watch in the world to be able to do so...
and in so doing, became the first GMT watch to be able to track 4 timezones (or was it 3?).

so does that mean that 16710 is an improved version??

[evets]

its a discontinued model. The newer GMT is so more pricier..so quite heng i got it before the GST hike last year July. the only regret is that i didnt manage to get it in black and red bezel. The pepsi combo is just as classic.

[seiko.citizen]

what is the current status of the 16710? is it easy to resell? I still abit blur when it come to gmt

[triton]

and in so doing, became the first GMT watch to be able to track 4 timezones (or was it 3?).

3 timeszones

1) normal hour hand
2) GMT Hand
3) bezel rotation

[keltzar]

unlike many brands, rolex is generally more conservative and believe in introducing changes evolutionarily. ... so one model can see subtle changes over many years.

Ironically, it is this slowness which partially accounts for its demand. It's predictable. Contrast this with Omega with its myriad number of variations... which holds more value in the long term?

Between movements there are usually some improvements - its more a question if you bother to go read up and compare the differences.

The most recent example is the parachrome spring in the new models. These springs don't get magnetized, which is a problem all mechanical watches faced.

BTw, the 16700 and 16710 have very different movements. The 16700 is a quick-set date without decoupled hour-hand for changing timezone. The 16710 can decouple the hour hand to change timezone and uses two cycles to change date (a bit leh-cheh). I believe the 16710 was the first GMT watch in the world to be able to do so...
and in so doing, became the first GMT watch to be able to track 4 timezones (or was it 3?).

[Oceanklassik]

hi evets,

U r nt wrong thre but ROLEX can't b selling to just a quarter of the international population (ie. te "man on the streets") rite? Thre r still othr sectors of the population that they want to target, like those watch aficionados/serious collectors.

Jus my tots

[feudallordcult]

wonder why Rolex come out with so many different movement for the same model of watch.

honestly what significant different does it make to man on the street like moi who simply just wanna get a Rolex watch for its status symbol or watsoever reasons..

Is it some form of marketing gimmick to justify the reason to hike the price (well, not as if Rolex need any reason though...hee)

well, subtle changes that accompanied with inflation of epic proportions are lil hard to stomach, rite?

with regards to your question: it's anybody's guess.

[daveevan]

wonder why Rolex come out with so many different movement for the same model of watch.

honestly what significant different does it make to man on the street like moi who simply just wanna get a Rolex watch for its status symbol or watsoever reasons..

Is it some form of marketing gimmick to justify the reason to hike the price (well, not as if Rolex need any reason though...hee)

fully agree with you bro, they don't need a reason to raise their price

[evets]

re: GMT II ... prior to the 116710, there was the 16760 "Fat Lady" and later 16710 ... both had different movements. Is this what the discussion was about?

On another note , check out Watch Palace in lucky plaza for the AirKing . Their prices are suppose to be quite good, and lots of stock. I saw a few airkings a few weeks ago.

wonder why Rolex come out with so many different movement for the same model of watch.

honestly what significant different does it make to man on the street like moi who simply just wanna get a Rolex watch for its status symbol or watsoever reasons..

Is it some form of marketing gimmick to justify the reason to hike the price (well, not as if Rolex need any reason though...hee)

[Oceanklassik]

i think it is nt advisable to buy from dubious background. take care n beware.

[Darkangel]

Email him this afternoon and he replied that the watch will b shipped in from Indonesia!

as expected....then he ask u to pay him half the amt...and u wont see the rest of it...

[lsk005]

Email him this afternoon and he replied that the watch will b shipped in from Indonesia!

[Darkangel]

http://sg.auctions.yahoo.com/sg/i:Ro...6710:258256550


So cheap meh???

This is usual rubbish from Yahoo Auctions....scam

[lsk005]

http://sg.auctions.yahoo.com/sg/i:Ro...6710:258256550


So cheap meh???