16710 Pepsi or Coke?

[salvato]

I have sold off my 1803 daydate due to size is a bit too small n too vintage for me.
I have been looking around and wanted to get a 16710.
My question to all Pepsi or Coke? I like the coke but my wife said pepsi nicer.

What is the estimate price for a 16710 with cert?

Thank you all

[Oceanklassik]

Whether it's the "Coke" or the "Pepsi" is a personal preference.

As for pricing, you may want to scour thru' the watch sales garage to get a sensing. The price range for a pre-owned Coke with certificate may be between 8K and 9K. The Pepsi may be slightly higher.

Good luck

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[salvato]

Will do more home work on the pricing. but the 16710 and the 16700 difference?

I have read a bit on it about the GMT hand movement. But I don't really understand.

[Ryuden]

...but the 16710 and the 16700 difference?

I have read a bit on it about the GMT hand movement. But I don't really understand.

The 16700 is the Gmt Master and the 16710 is the Gmt Master II.

Diff:

16700 being the true Gmt have a quickset date which allows you to change the date rapidly from one date to another. This is very useful if you have multiples watches to rotate and when you are back into the rotation of your Gmt and the date is like so far away, you can easily quickset it. The second time zone is set and read by manipulating the Gmt bezel. The hour hand and the Gmt hand are synchronised and cannot be set independently. Exp, if the hour hand shows 12 noon, the Gmt hands will be pointing at 6 o'clock which correspond to the bezel which is 12 noon (if the bezel is at default). For travelling, both the Gmt and hour hand are at home time, you need to set the bezel so that your Gmt hand tells the travelling time and your normal hour hand tells home time

16170 is an upgraded version which have an independent hour hand which means that the Gmt hand and the hour hand can be set independently thus two time zone can be set without manipulating the bezel. Exp, if you have set the hour hand with a +3 hours difference, when the hour hand point at 3pm, the Gmt hand will point to the 12 noon on the bezel (bezel at default). This is a useful feature if you are a frequent traveller. You will set the Gmt hand at home time and just shift the hour hand forward and backward to the travelling time. If you need to change the date, you will have to rotate the hour hand over 2 cycles to change one date. And if the date is far away, you will have to rotate your hour hands over and over as the 16170 does not have a quickset date feature.

If it's still confusing, you can search for demo vids on youtube. There's plenty of them.

[Mezz72]

I think not possible to get 16710 below $7k these days. market price now lowest probably 7.5k?

[Ryuden]

I think not possible to get 16710 below $7k these days. market price now lowest probably 7.5k?

+1

Prices are crazy nowadays...7k can score you a very well worn no box or papers 16710 and a very very old serial.

For a complete set...tough. Good luck.

[jSkywalker]

Any reason why the 16710 price shoot up so rapidly ?

[Ryuden]

Any reason why the 16710 price shoot up so rapidly ?

Basic demand and supply...but mostly internet hype...

Ultimately, willing buyers buying at seller's asking price...

[salvato]

Erm..i saw a piece 16700 below 7k with RSC service papers n box only. I guess if is been service n warranty dfrom RSC still reasonable

[salvato]

Thank you everyone. 16710 very good cond with papers can get below 7.5k. That is out of my budget..hehe...i am still confused with GMT hand. Hehe...

[Ryuden]

This is how to set the 16710... If you noticed, the setting of the hour hand and Gmt hand can be set independently...

The 16700 is different as it doesn't have the feature to independently set the hour hand toward and backward like the 16710 but instead it has a quick set date feature.

[salvato]

Ah....thanks a lot bro...

[Ryuden]

Ah....thanks a lot bro...

If you can get a 16700 at a good price, go for it as it's the last of the "true" Gmt... Unless you travel frequently and need the ability to advance the hour hand forward or backward which means the 16710 is a better choice, if not the 16700 is the better watch for daily wear.

Which ever way, both are awesome choice.

[Ryuden]

Some additional info...





As you can see from the timeline, both the 16700 and 16710 was available to the market at the same time back in 1988, with the 16700 being sold slightly cheaper than the 16710.

The 16700 was offered in all Black and Pepsi insert only while the 16710 was offered in Coke insert only. This was to differentiate between both models as they were released at the same time.

However the 16700 was produced for 11 years only while the 16710 for 19 years...

Some say the 16710 is fast becoming a collectable, but if base on the production run, the 16700 is shorter and at the price they are offered now, (which is lesser than the 16710) , I will have to go with the 16700. And it's the last of the Gmt Master.