Sub 16610 vs Subsy (116610LN)

[Watcha]

The last of bnib classic sub are probably finishing soon.

Will you go for the klassik or SeeLaMeek?

16610:

- stream line case
- cheap bezel insert
- hollow links
- stamped clasp

classic bracelet is old school but sand proof, fail safe.

116610:

- chunky macho case, AR on cyclops
- expensive bezel insert. no chance of faded vintage look.
- solid link. no stretch.
- solid clasp

Yet to see if sand will destroy the spring loaded clasp.
State of the art hair spring.

[Oceanklassik]

I will stick to 'old school'. Why?

First & foremost, I still like the design and build of the 16610 very much.
At the current price point of the 116610LN (using AD's as reference), it is not worth.
There is not likely to be any new 16610 produced, so it should get lesser over a long period of time.
The looks of both are closely resembling & unless in close proximity, you cannot really tell a 116610LN from a 16610 from afar.

My personal opinion only

[Sucram99]

116610:

- chunky macho case, AR on cyclops
- expensive bezel insert. no chance of faded vintage look.
- solid link. no stretch.
- solid clasp

Yet to see if sand will destroy the spring loaded clasp.
State of the art hair spring.

Pardon my ignorance

What's Ar?

[Oceanklassik]

"Ar" = anti-reflective (coating)

[DM101]

I will stick to 'old school'. Why?

First & foremost, I still like the design and build of the 16610 very much.
At the current price point of the 116610LN (using AD's as reference), it is not worth.
There is not likely to be any new 16610 produced, so it should get lesser over a long period of time.
The looks of both are closely resembling & unless in close proximity, you cannot really tell a 116610LN from a 16610 from afar.

My personal opinion only

Agree... thew new SUB still have one decade or so before discontinue and minor refresh along the way too...

[breitling77]

The word 'classic' is the answer. Ceramic bezel seems to be the way Rolex increases the price. It's quite high for a SS watch to be retailed above 10k.

[Sucram99]

"Ar" = anti-reflective (coating)

Ohhh... Thanks!!!

[coopster9]

My personal take, the new has got more presence over the old.

Yes, the old may become rarer to find but for those who are not looking to collect, my take is still the new Sub Ceramic.

I have placed both side by side, the Sub Ceramic looks solidly more macho...just like the old mini vs the new mini.

[Sucram99]

I have placed both side by side, the Sub Ceramic looks solidly more macho...just like the old mini vs the new mini.

Hahaha just what i needed to affirm my Choice!!

[Oceanklassik]

Sorry for the pic quality

Compare like this?

[pegasi]

I still maintain my view that the Sub should not have a ceramic bezel. Just like it should not have a bracelet with polished centre links - Rolex got this second part right but did not have a better idea to update its Sub than putting a ceramic bezel on it

[coopster9]

I still maintain my view that the Sub should not have a ceramic bezel. Just like it should not have a bracelet with polished centre links - Rolex got this second part right but did not have a better idea to update its Sub than putting a ceramic bezel on it

Dun think the Sub Ceramic has got polished centre links right? Thats for GMT II C.

As for the ceramic bezel, it freshens up the face of the Sub, giving it a overall glossy black appearance.
I like it over the boring ALU look.

To add, the Sub Ceramic has weight and feels solid to wear while the ALU feels light and flimsy.
Again, I like it over the cheapened ALU feel, no offence, please.

[coopster9]

bro - good one!!!

something not quite right with both watches....

[Oceanklassik]

How so, Mr coopster9?

[pegasi]

Dun think the Sub Ceramic has got polished centre links right? Thats for GMT II C.

As for the ceramic bezel, it freshens up the face of the Sub, giving it a overall glossy black appearance.
I like it over the boring ALU look.

To add, the Sub Ceramic has weight and feels solid to wear while the ALU feels light and flimsy.
Again, I like it over the cheapened ALU feel, no offence, please.

Erh...I did not say the Sub has polished centre links. I said Rolex got it right with not having the polished centre links on the Sub, but went wrong with the ceramic bezel. I relate the ceramic bezel to the polished links, as both are glossy and make the classic Sub less masculine, in my opinion.