A "legend" takes time to nurture, just like how patina takes time to develop and "glow". DSSD is too new an addition to the rolex dive family.
I would say the sub IMHO is the legend of the rolex dive family. Even before were became interested in collecting watches, we already identified that iconic watch to be a rolex with one glance...
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I dun think it deserve the legenday status yet, even it's a great watch. Legendary might be use for submariner or even sea dweller. Just ask your friend which rolex they know, chances are they will know submariner, likely they will know sea dweller but might not know deep sea.Originally posted by Storm trooper View PostYes there may be many more watches which can go deeper in the ocean bed but STILL only one legendary Deepsea, get the point?
This is just my personal opinion.
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Originally posted by Gunbucker View PostI don't think the Deepsea has achieved "legendary" status yet. However, the Deepsea's older brother the Sea-Dweller has achieved that "legendary" status due to its COMEX linkages and heritage with US Navy's Sea-Lab (where the Helium Release Valve was joint-developed).
Correct - Rolex S.A. and Doxa S.A. when they co-created the helium escape valve in the 1960s (first introduced in the Rolex Submariner/Sea-Dweller and the Doxa Conquistador) : A small, spring-loaded one-way valve integrated in the watch case that is activated when the differential between the inner and the outside pressure reaches a critical level.
Result: The valve releases the helium, hydrogen and/or other gases used in the breathing gas mix ( TriMix / Heliox Blends / others trapped inside the watch case.
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i think both are great watches
tough choice
but my vote goes to submariner
Originally posted by dark.magnet View PostHaha. I like this. That's why we're all ardent supporters of the Rolex dive range (you bros are all ardent supporters of the Rolex dive range, right?).
Would you consider the sub 16610LN as the legendary dive model, or the seadweller? I digress..
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Haha. I like this. That's why we're all ardent supporters of the Rolex dive range (you bros are all ardent supporters of the Rolex dive range, right?).Originally posted by Storm trooper View PostYes there may be many more watches which can go deeper in the ocean bed but STILL only one legendary Deepsea, get the point?
Would you consider the sub 16610LN as the legendary dive model, or the seadweller? I digress..
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I don't think the Deepsea has achieved "legendary" status yet. However, the Deepsea's older brother the Sea-Dweller has achieved that "legendary" status due to its COMEX linkages and heritage with US Navy's Sea-Lab (where the Helium Release Valve was joint-developed).Originally posted by Storm trooper View PostYes there may be many more watches which can go deeper in the ocean bed but STILL only one legendary Deepsea, get the point?
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Yes there may be many more watches which can go deeper in the ocean bed but STILL only one legendary Deepsea, get the point?
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Thanks for the info
Didnt know the 'king' with ground breaking 3900m rating was dethroned some 3yr ago by some lower tier brand
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I was, and did it for a few years (2) only.... as one of my friends dads told me - do it for 2-5 years max to earn the $$$$... otherwise your health WILL suffer. ( he did it for 20+ years and died a few years ago because his bones went to mush. )Originally posted by dark.magnet View Postno one can deny that the DSSD has fantastic depth rating. Dfive's diligent research has made known to us another lesser known watch with even greater depth rating.
I'd rather my watch tell great time at sea level than be able to dive deep and smile back at me underwater where it's too dark even to see the watchface. The submariner is already a proven workhorse, enough for the deepest of recreational diving. DSSD's dive abilities to some, may be a littlle redundant. It's a nice big cool thing to don on the wrist, but i really don't think brands should be in too much of a hurry to compete for the title of "most watertight watch ever", where the practical usage is limited. It's like splitting hairs.
Who is a professional diver here? Please raise your hand or stand up.
It's just like how various countries wanna build the tallest structure in the world. Petronas twin towers, taiwan tower, dubai tower blah blah blah...at the cost of additional billions.
[ what did I use? Two at the same time actually = A Citizen Pro Divers 300m watch, and a Sunnto Spyder Divers Watch ( computer ) plus my gauges. ]
So agree on the tall building thing, perhaps we should establish a "tall building syndrome"
Like companies wanting the most expensive watch, fastest car, etc....
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no one can deny that the DSSD has fantastic depth rating. Dfive's diligent research has made known to us another lesser known watch with even greater depth rating.
I'd rather my watch tell great time at sea level than be able to dive deep and smile back at me underwater where it's too dark even to see the watchface. The submariner is already a proven workhorse, enough for the deepest of recreational diving. DSSD's dive abilities to some, may be a littlle redundant. It's a nice big cool thing to don on the wrist, but i really don't think brands should be in too much of a hurry to compete for the title of "most watertight watch ever", where the practical usage is limited. It's like splitting hairs.
Who is a professional diver here? Please raise your hand or stand up.
It's just like how various countries wanna build the tallest structure in the world. Petronas twin towers, taiwan tower, dubai tower blah blah blah...at the cost of additional billions.
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http://www.ablogtoread.com/cx-swiss-...-watch-review/Originally posted by Dfive View PostAt the BaselWorld watch and jewellery show 2009, the CX Swiss Military Watch 20'000 FEET diving watch with an official depth rating of 6,000 m (20,000 ft) was introduced. This watch represented in its launch year, 2009, the most water resistant (mechanical) watch in production. For obtaining this official depth rating the water resistance is tested to a depth of 7,500 m (24,600 ft) To offer the 25% safety reserve required by the ISO 6425 divers' watches standard.
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At the BaselWorld watch and jewellery show 2009, the CX Swiss Military Watch 20'000 FEET diving watch with an official depth rating of 6,000 m (20,000 ft) was introduced. This watch represented in its launch year, 2009, the most water resistant (mechanical) watch in production. For obtaining this official depth rating the water resistance is tested to a depth of 7,500 m (24,600 ft) To offer the 25% safety reserve required by the ISO 6425 divers' watches standard.Originally posted by skydweller_sg View PostLets see who is the next to breach the 3900m mark for automatic watches
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Lets see who is the next to breach the 3900m mark for automatic watches
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Valid point but end of day it's just not required.... The sport / recreational diving at 18-40m, Military Divers 30-80m.... Even saturation bell divers will go to 80-150m.... those in special 'hard' suits perhaps 400-600m.Originally posted by skydweller_sg View PostIf its not an engineering marvel, then why arent other brands able to achieve the same or even better 3900m water rating for their automatic sports models?
Rolex just wants to trump all other brands for depth rating in a mechanical watch... it's their grail - as history has showed, they've always tried to be at the top of the diving watch world, the Breitling Sea Wolf Avenger at 3000m shook that up big time..... as did the IWC Aquatimer at 2000m.
Hence DSSD at 3900m... but is tested to about 4500m and survives !!
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If its not an engineering marvel, then why arent other brands able to achieve the same or even better 3900m water rating for their automatic sports models?
Originally posted by dark.magnet View PostDSSD just make more watertight, use the same gas escape valve as in the sea-dweller. Glidelock bracelet is cool, but not a technical marvel either. And practically speaking, the watch will be used probably more for desk diving and submersion in the bathtub.
I would rather pay premium for a movement made from scratch, rather than improvements to the waterproofing and wrist-fit.
anyway, i got both the DSSD and AP. So no hard feelings.
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