Nice Car or watches?

[yattokame]

Thank you bro rougehog for your feedback on VW. I was seriously considering the scirocco
because of the coming Coe changes but now steering far far away from this brand!!

I know one guy who has 2 red VW (a polo and a roc) and is always showing them off.......

Now I think I know why he needs 2 cars LOL!!!

[yattokame]

No worries. Usually I would tell people not to base on my opinion alone but this time around, I'd dare say you should not even consider VW. although their 6-spd box is more reliable with the wet clutch, you might never know what else could be wrong with the car.



you made the best choice of your life.

Since we are on this topic, I might as well repeat what were replaced on my golf:
1) clutch changed 2 times. When I relieved it, it was already running on the 3rd set of clutch.
2) mu changed 2 times.
3) headlamp condensation. changed.
4) water pump changed (old one caused another infamous issue called the bird chirping issue).
5) auxiliary fan not working. replaced.
6) air-cond unit faulty. replaced.
7) both front window winders faulty. replaced.
8) Steering rack faulty. replaced.
9) both brake light holders burnt out/ melted. replaced.
10) major leak through gap between chassis and rear door during first month of ownership. Door realigned but not flushed. looked like it had an accident and was badly repaired.

all these within the first 3 year warranty period. tranmission warranty was extended for another 2 years with no cap on mileage.

sorry to hear about this.
the VW golf GTi was around when I was looking to sell my 156 then. It had the infamous selespeed problem but none as bad than this. I did consider the GTI back then but am glad I didn't.

good thing u didn't have to pay since its under warranty.....

[roguehog]

Indeed. I've never owned a car that was warded so often.

[Trinidad]

No worries. Usually I would tell people not to base on my opinion alone but this time around, I'd dare say you should not even consider VW. although their 6-spd box is more reliable with the wet clutch, you might never know what else could be wrong with the car.



you made the best choice of your life.

Since we are on this topic, I might as well repeat what were replaced on my golf:
1) clutch changed 2 times. When I relieved it, it was already running on the 3rd set of clutch.
2) mu changed 2 times.
3) headlamp condensation. changed.
4) water pump changed (old one caused another infamous issue called the bird chirping issue).
5) auxiliary fan not working. replaced.
6) air-cond unit faulty. replaced.
7) both front window winders faulty. replaced.
8) Steering rack faulty. replaced.
9) both brake light holders burnt out/ melted. replaced.
10) major leak through gap between chassis and rear door during first month of ownership. Door realigned but not flushed. looked like it had an accident and was badly repaired.

all these within the first 3 year warranty period. tranmission warranty was extended for another 2 years with no cap on mileage.

Thats terrible.

The time and effort wasted to right those issues are already crazy.
I hope you didnt have to pay a cent.

[roguehog]

Thank you bro rougehog for your feedback on VW. I was seriously considering the scirocco
because of the coming Coe changes but now steering far far away from this brand!!

No worries. Usually I would tell people not to base on my opinion alone but this time around, I'd dare say you should not even consider VW. although their 6-spd box is more reliable with the wet clutch, you might never know what else could be wrong with the car.

At one point i also considered to buy the scirocco for my wife.
But decided against wasting money.
Bot her a Jap to ferry the kids daily.
Easy to maintain and easy to drive

you made the best choice of your life.

Since we are on this topic, I might as well repeat what were replaced on my golf:
1) clutch changed 2 times. When I relieved it, it was already running on the 3rd set of clutch.
2) mu changed 2 times.
3) headlamp condensation. changed.
4) water pump changed (old one caused another infamous issue called the bird chirping issue).
5) auxiliary fan not working. replaced.
6) air-cond unit faulty. replaced.
7) both front window winders faulty. replaced.
8) Steering rack faulty. replaced.
9) both brake light holders burnt out/ melted. replaced.
10) major leak through gap between chassis and rear door during first month of ownership. Door realigned but not flushed. looked like it had an accident and was badly repaired.

all these within the first 3 year warranty period. tranmission warranty was extended for another 2 years with no cap on mileage.

[Trinidad]

At one point i also considered to buy the scirocco for my wife.
But decided against wasting money.
Bot her a Jap to ferry the kids daily.
Easy to maintain and easy to drive

[Lison30E]

Thank you bro rougehog for your feedback on VW. I was seriously considering the scirocco
because of the coming Coe changes but now steering far far away from this brand!!

[roguehog]

Wahhhhhhhh. Never owned a VW before.
Dont think i ever will after this. Haha

You should buy a vw , especially with a 7-speed dry clutch if:
1) you like free coffee.
2) you like to have your patience tested.
3) like yelling at people.
4) like making enemies with service staff.
5) enjoy using up the perks associated with your car's warranty.
6) miss taking public transport.
7) enjoy being duped by unscrupulous car salesmen.
8) do not believe in previous owners' experiences.
9) like driving a time bomb.

[flagship]

A few of my friends also have MU issues with VW..That's a sad truth.

[Trinidad]

haha! I can tell you, all you've read and heard are truer than true. There are 6 of us in my group - 1 golf sport, 2 jetta sport, 2 siroccos and 1 touran. All had problems with the tranny. 3 of us have ditched our rides. one is contemplating. Mine was 3 1/2 years old. the infamous flash of death hit my MU two weeks prior to new car collection. I've had so many parts replaced on my ride they shoulda given me a new one haha! more than 20 visits to the service centre in that period excluding servicing.

But the golf is still one of the best handling car i had owned to date. If not for the reliability issues and the excruciatingly long wait for a service booking (2 months average), I wouldn't have ditched it.

Wahhhhhhhh. Never owned a VW before.
Dont think i ever will after this. Haha

[roguehog]

Golf suppose to be very hardy leh......but all that rumor about VW tranny, not sure true all not.

Mercedes7 G-tronic , also rumored to be not,so good, but i have no problems with my previous CLS350...... Drove 1yr 6mths swee swee changing simple wear and tear parts.

haha! I can tell you, all you've read and heard are truer than true. There are 6 of us in my group - 1 golf sport, 2 jetta sport, 2 siroccos and 1 touran. All had problems with the tranny. 3 of us have ditched our rides. one is contemplating. Mine was 3 1/2 years old. the infamous flash of death hit my MU two weeks prior to new car collection. I've had so many parts replaced on my ride they shoulda given me a new one haha! more than 20 visits to the service centre in that period excluding servicing.

But the golf is still one of the best handling car i had owned to date. If not for the reliability issues and the excruciatingly long wait for a service booking (2 months average), I wouldn't have ditched it.

[Trinidad]

haha! well said. no. I am not talking about high end marques. I'm actually referring to my previous ride, which essentially is the toyota equivalent in europe, particularly germany. it's notoriety is pretty much on a global scale now, with more than 380,000 recalled in China alone and an on-going recall locally.

It was a great car to drive but not a great ownership experience.

To be honest, I never had my car towed back due to roadside breakdowns, until I owned the golf sport.

Golf suppose to be very hardy leh......but all that rumor about VW tranny, not sure true all not.

Mercedes7 G-tronic , also rumored to be not,so good, but i have no problems with my previous CLS350...... Drove 1yr 6mths swee swee changing simple wear and tear parts.

[roguehog]

haha! well said. no. I am not talking about high end marques. I'm actually referring to my previous ride, which essentially is the toyota equivalent in europe, particularly germany. it's notoriety is pretty much on a global scale now, with more than 380,000 recalled in China alone and an on-going recall locally.

It was a great car to drive but not a great ownership experience.

To be honest, I never had my car towed back due to roadside breakdowns, until I owned the golf sport.

[Trinidad]

For me owning a reliably nice car is more important. Having owned a car that got me a lot of free coffee , I realized the importance of reliability. A nice car might be great to handle and good looking but a nightmare to own. The same can be said about watches. I guess.

I think its really a myth that nice cars are unreliable.
Of course bread and butter cars should not have problems, they are meant to be thrashed daily like daily beaters. And they dont have sophisticated or hi tech options nor electronics so have no reason to break down anyway.

Just like a honda Cub, so basic can even run on vegetable oil , hahah.
Compare that to say a Kawasaki Z1000 or a Ducati Streetfighter, hahah.

nyway for the record, my cars have never broken down by the side of the road.
Just standard wear and tear parts. In terms of reliability, i give max marks.
No nightmare.

So if you are talking about daily car, definitely reliability is of utmost importance.
But for collectors car or play car (sports car), it could be about acheiving the feel or the sentimental reasons, where reliability isnt e most important.

Cheers

[roguehog]

For me owning a reliably nice car is more important. Having owned a car that got me a lot of free coffee , I realized the importance of reliability. A nice car might be great to handle and good looking but a nightmare to own. The same can be said about watches. I guess.