Verification @ RSC and other alternatives

[The One]

I think all private sellers bros might consider to quote that if watches rejected by Service Centre, the cost will be bear by the sellers instead. Like this the buyer will feel more secured. Of course some seller might even pay for the verification in order to sell their watch.

[lolex kia]

"If the watch is not genuine, seller bears the $75" RSC will let you know at once if they spotted it not genuine and at no charges at all.

Thanks....That's good new! as I have never encountered a situation so far of a case of a watch not having genuine parts in the $75 verification process.

[louie]

What happens in the following scenario?

Buyer and seller agree to authentication process

1. If the watch is genuine, buyer bears the $75
2. If the watch is not genuine, seller bears the $75

But happens if there's a minor problem: all parts genuine, except the hands.
The seller agrees to replace the hands and to send the watch for another
verification. Question: Seller ought to bear the cost?

The problem is relatively simple in the case of two forumers meeting in RSC
because money has not changed hands.

The problem becomes more complex when one buys from a pre-owned shop,
and money has already changed hands. The seller may not share in the cost
of verification, he can only agree to replace parts which not genuine, and
the buyer may end up with a $150 cost.

"If the watch is not genuine, seller bears the $75" RSC will let you know at once if they spotted it not genuine and at no charges at all.

[116520]

Maybe times are bad... ha ha... not many people send watches to service... so got business don't care so much lah... LOL....

i recently sent in a 6694 for servicing.

hands were not original. watch is still serviced with parts replaced.

only can say 6694 hor. other models dont know.

[Darkangel]

What happens in the following scenario?

Buyer and seller agree to authentication process

1. If the watch is genuine, buyer bears the $75
2. If the watch is not genuine, seller bears the $75

But happens if there's a minor problem: all parts genuine, except the hands.
The seller agrees to replace the hands and to send the watch for another
verification. Question: Seller ought to bear the cost?

The problem is relatively simple in the case of two forumers meeting in RSC
because money has not changed hands.

The problem becomes more complex when one buys from a pre-owned shop,
and money has already changed hands. The seller may not share in the cost
of verification, he can only agree to replace parts which not genuine, and
the buyer may end up with a $150 cost.

IF seller stated that ALL PARTS are original yes you can make him pay for the extra cost of changing the original hands. If not...I guess you just have to come out of it from your pocket

[triton]

this scenario happened to me when i bought a 6694. hands were changed @ my own request. inform the seller about the scenario. seller apologises and pay cost of hands. i dont know about other sellers will do, but mine did. for my seller.

in this situation, i would expect the seller to bear the first verification costs as there are parts not geniune. why should buyer bear the first cost? if seller agrees to replace hands, then after replacing go back to RSC. same agreement. if all is ok, buyer to pay second time verification cost.

What happens in the following scenario?
But happens if there's a minor problem: all parts genuine, except the hands.
The seller agrees to replace the hands and to send the watch for another
verification. Question: Seller ought to bear the cost?

[triton]

i recently sent in a 6694 for servicing.

hands were not original. watch is still serviced with parts replaced.

only can say 6694 hor. other models dont know.

i think if i m not wrong, RSC will not service your watch if there is any 3rd party parts on your watch.

[lolex kia]

What happens in the following scenario?

Buyer and seller agree to authentication process

1. If the watch is genuine, buyer bears the $75
2. If the watch is not genuine, seller bears the $75

But happens if there's a minor problem: all parts genuine, except the hands.
The seller agrees to replace the hands and to send the watch for another
verification. Question: Seller ought to bear the cost?

The problem is relatively simple in the case of two forumers meeting in RSC
because money has not changed hands.

The problem becomes more complex when one buys from a pre-owned shop,
and money has already changed hands. The seller may not share in the cost
of verification, he can only agree to replace parts which not genuine, and
the buyer may end up with a $150 cost.

[Darkangel]

Pins and parts....hmm I think during verification they wont check unless it's a very obvious part.

Only during service when they take out every single part then they will do a check

[yeshe]

Does 1 and 2 check for if the pins, parts are original?

i think if i m not wrong, RSC will not service your watch if there is any 3rd party parts on your watch.

[Darkangel]

Thank you bros for all the invaluable answers. In this case, if i were to buy a BNIB watch, no point go RSC. Just use it for good 5-10yrs then send for servicing, hopefully dont get a shock

For preown, send it to RSC for servicing. Can check health of watch at the same time verification

Yep...oh yes do enjoy your watch!

[DM101]

Yes this is what i meant. Assuming 3 scenerios,

1) i send in a 1675 GMT Master for servicing. RSC check and gave me a quote to change dial, bezel, waterproofing, blar blar blar, total $1800. I reject quote and service outside. ( In the end, no servicing done, but verify the watch is genuine )

2) i send in a BNIB GMT IIc for servicing. RSC check and tell me no problem ( i assume including waterproofing ). I walk away happy because verification is done free.

3) i send in a 'fake' GMT for servicing. RSC check, does not want to provide quote because its not genuine.

correct me if i m wrong for the above 3 situations.

Does 1 and 2 check for if the pins, parts are original?

[yeshe]

Thank you bros for all the invaluable answers. In this case, if i were to buy a BNIB watch, no point go RSC. Just use it for good 5-10yrs then send for servicing, hopefully dont get a shock

For preown, send it to RSC for servicing. Can check health of watch at the same time verification

[ohlins]

Yes this is what i meant. Assuming 3 scenerios,

1) i send in a 1675 GMT Master for servicing. RSC check and gave me a quote to change dial, bezel, waterproofing, blar blar blar, total $1800. I reject quote and service outside. ( In the end, no servicing done, but verify the watch is genuine )

2) i send in a BNIB GMT IIc for servicing. RSC check and tell me no problem ( i assume including waterproofing ). I walk away happy because verification is done free.

3) i send in a 'fake' GMT for servicing. RSC check, does not want to provide quote because its not genuine.

correct me if i m wrong for the above 3 situations.

for no 1, so long u r happy can already.

for no 2, once opened, the watch cannot be "assumed" to be WR to its full rating without a waterproofing test.

no 3 is irrelevant.

[Darkangel]

Yes this is what i meant. Assuming 3 scenerios,

1) i send in a 1675 GMT Master for servicing. RSC check and gave me a quote to change dial, bezel, waterproofing, blar blar blar, total $1800. I reject quote and service outside. ( In the end, no servicing done, but verify the watch is genuine )

2) i send in a BNIB GMT IIc for servicing. RSC check and tell me no problem ( i assume including waterproofing ). I walk away happy because verification is done free.

3) i send in a 'fake' GMT for servicing. RSC check, does not want to provide quote because its not genuine.

correct me if i m wrong for the above 3 situations.

Everything is correct IMO except for this part

Just want to add something to point 3....you won't get away that easily. Watch would be chong gong and most probably they will take down particulars or something...and question u...then u enjoy your Lorlec kopi already

sorry for my noobness, since you agree that watches can be verify by servicing quote ( hence FOC ) why everyone prefer to pay $75 just for a receipt? pai seh?

Well there are some people who dunno the way around it...it's up to them