Wow! 4000 pcs of M series 312!

[Seventh Son]

I think the 312 must be selling so well that it has become Pam's bread and butter model. Just saw the M serial picture in some other forum. Got a shock

[tsetse]

I think the 312 must be selling so well that it has become Pam's bread and butter model. Just saw the M serial picture in some other forum. Got a shock

Yeah! The most attractive thing about 312 is the 1950s case and a really clean dial which appeals to me! But no stock so have to settle for 320 hehe.

[Dmaul77]

that's like 4 times the production run for the 233L series. Personally still find it's cousin (104) more appealing ..... then again the 351 is not too shabby as well

Cheers

[Seventh Son]

that's like 4 times the production run for the 233L series. Personally still find it's cousin (104) more appealing ..... then again the 351 is not too shabby as well

Cheers

I am ok with the 104 EXCEPT the CYCLOPS! Dun prefer Pams with the cyclops thingy. Hope to get the 351 once the prices starts to stablise, the prices will be sky high as with every new Pam released.

[Dmaul77]

I am ok with the 104 EXCEPT the CYCLOPS! Dun prefer Pams with the cyclops thingy. Hope to get the 351 once the prices starts to stablise, the prices will be sky high as with every new Pam released.

Guess what, I love it for the cyclops ..... guess it's the rollie sub thingy inside of me in any case to each his own

[Seventh Son]

Yeah, agree with you, to each his own.

[KuchingKu]

312 IS the bread and butter model for Pam in the next years to come.

Mainly because, Pam will soon use only their in-house movement and no more ETA movement.

But no need to rush out there to buy up all the ETA Pams cos there are millions.

[desfrie]

Actually unlike rolex, the production run from PAM is only about 40,000- 50,000 per year. So it is untrue there are millions of ETAs out there. Over 10 years perhaps. This is versus an estimated production run of more than 1 million rolex per year.

[KuchingKu]

Actually unlike rolex, the production run from PAM is only about 40,000- 50,000 per year. So it is untrue there are millions of ETAs out there. Over 10 years perhaps. This is versus an estimated production run of more than 1 million rolex per year.

All the past models of Pams made with ETA put together definitely has a million around. Sorry about using loosely 'millions'.

Rolex makes about 800K to 900K watches a year spread among all its models.

Rolex definitely makes more watches than Pams.

As to bread and butter.....some models are more B&B. For example.....at one time, 116/118 were made in 3500 pcs....then 111/112 in 4000 pcs.....then 104 in 4000 pcs....then 312 in 4000 pcs. Some others are mostly in 300, 500, up to 1000 pcs. It's all their marketing strategy.

Good for consumers cos more pcs for people to buy and wear.

[tsetse]

All the past models of Pams made with ETA put together definitely has a million around. Sorry about using loosely 'millions'.

Rolex makes about 800K to 900K watches a year spread among all its models.

Rolex definitely makes more watches than Pams.

As to bread and butter.....some models are more B&B. For example.....at one time, 116/118 were made in 3500 pcs....then 111/112 in 4000 pcs.....then 104 in 4000 pcs....then 312 in 4000 pcs. Some others are mostly in 300, 500, up to 1000 pcs. It's all their marketing strategy.

Good for consumers cos more pcs for people to buy and wear.

Im wondering if pams increase their production volume to like say half of rolex, would value drop sharply? Cos now they are adopting a limited production and ADs are keeping the watches and telling walk in customers out of stock all the time.

Regardless of value i would still keep and love my pam though! But just a tot to the majority of consumers in the world though.

[KuchingKu]

Im wondering if pams increase their production volume to like say half of rolex, would value drop sharply? Cos now they are adopting a limited production and ADs are keeping the watches and telling walk in customers out of stock all the time.

Regardless of value i would still keep and love my pam though! But just a tot to the majority of consumers in the world though.

For sure value will drop. You try bringing a Pam to a pawnshop and see if you can get a price? Jewellery and Rolex can. Rolex is almost proxy to cash in some countries. That's the reason why they can make and still sell 900K pcs.

Pam is no where near that status but it has a following among some younger collectors.

All said, I also still love my Pams and can't imagine not having at least a few pams in my collection.

[desfrie]

Yes it is all based on demand and supply given the high demand for PAM 312. Even the PAM 292 has a production run of 1500 pieces this year. This is good for consumers like us as ADs will not sell to us a a premium but at least at list price. Just 2 months ago, the 292 was going for above list at almost 12k at ADs.

[tsetse]

For sure value will drop. You try bringing a Pam to a pawnshop and see if you can get a price? Jewellery and Rolex can. Rolex is almost proxy to cash in some countries. That's the reason why they can make and still sell 900K pcs.

Pam is no where near that status but it has a following among some younger collectors.

All said, I also still love my Pams and can't imagine not having at least a few pams in my collection.

Hmm ok..I agree as well, thats why all watch collectors must have at least a rolex in their collection hehe and yes! I cant imagine having at least 1 PAM in my collection! Im a sucker for PAMs!!!

Yes it is all based on demand and supply given the high demand for PAM 312. Even the PAM 292 has a production run of 1500 pieces this year. This is good for consumers like us as ADs will not sell to us a a premium but at least at list price. Just 2 months ago, the 292 was going for above list at almost 12k at ADs.

Yeah I do think so as well. I think their marketing strategy is working! Just last week, I was at Sincere buying my Deep Sea, an uncle was buying rolex for his daughter, he is also a watch collector and he kept saying Panerai no good la, lousy movement, etc. Somemore so exp...siao one, waste money buy panerai....hahaha but then still I Love Panerai and will buy somemore to add to my collection next time! I think its more of a personal preference I guess!

[Seventh Son]

That's why in the first place, you called him an uncle. Ignorance is a bliss, some say. I am also a fan of Rolex watches but sad to say, these old stuck in the mud uncles are spoiling the image.

[commoner]

aren't you people glad these old uncles don't 'believe" in Pams? If they are into Pams, there will be a greater demand and the price will shoot up again. They will be fighting with you young guns for those 500/1500/2000/4000 limited production of Pams.

btw I am still stuck in the mud uncle, who enjoys Rolex and Omega, and not Pam yet.